vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Mar 17, 2016 22:17:44 GMT
That's Life You wrote last Month: "Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman." On this basis, let's politely agree to disagree.
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Post by richmace on Mar 17, 2016 22:18:11 GMT
True but that looks a blessing in disguise now because it looks like we would have been done up the backside by Sainsburys too like you have. Plus we get to stay where I've always wanted us to play. So looks like the dog walkers did us a favour. Purpose built state of the art stadium with good transport links v revamped stadium in a s***hole pull the other one if they think they did you a favour. If we do ever get a fully built & kitted out UWE then, grounds wise, we could be light years ahead. I actually like the idea that Bristol City have been able to develop their historical home, if the Memorial Stadium footprint was bigger I would be suggesting we do the same... I do agree that the Ashton Vale stadium decision was bloody stupid at the time. The proposal looked really good for that area of Bristol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 22:21:26 GMT
Purpose built state of the art stadium with good transport links v revamped stadium in a s***hole pull the other one if they think they did you a favour. If we do ever get a fully built & kitted out UWE then, grounds wise, we could be light years ahead. I actually like the idea that Bristol City have been able to develop their historical home, if the Memorial Stadium footprint was bigger I would be suggesting we do the same... I do agree that the Ashton Vale stadium decision was bloody stupid at the time. The proposal looked really good for that area of Bristol. If the Memorial Ground was our historical home I'd agree with you. It isn't and I don't. I'd still prefer to stay here rather than move, if it were realistic, but its not.
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Post by a more piratey game on Mar 17, 2016 22:33:58 GMT
on second thoughts that ain'to ever going to happen, not on this forum. forumist drivel
speak for yourself, but not for me please
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Post by richmace on Mar 17, 2016 22:37:21 GMT
I actually like the idea that Bristol City have been able to develop their historical home, if the Memorial Stadium footprint was bigger I would be suggesting we do the same... I do agree that the Ashton Vale stadium decision was bloody stupid at the time. The proposal looked really good for that area of Bristol. If the Memorial Ground was our historical home I'd agree with you. It isn't and I don't. I'd still prefer to stay here rather than move, if it were realistic, but its not. I was avoiding the Eastville issue, as that is far too annoying. Yet another in the long list of BRFC mistakes. Now that site had the perfect footprint....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 22:41:55 GMT
If the Memorial Ground was our historical home I'd agree with you. It isn't and I don't. I'd still prefer to stay here rather than move, if it were realistic, but its not. I was avoiding the Eastville issue, as that is far too annoying. Yet another in the long list of BRFC mistakes. Now that site had the perfect footprint.... Simples, get BSS to talk Wael into buying Tesco, Ikea, Mamas & Papas, Laura Ashley and Burger King, move that lot a mile up the road then Ken can get his wish and we can all finally ''Come 'ome''.
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Post by Igitur on Mar 17, 2016 22:43:55 GMT
So didn't TW say they were considering that as the next step? Yours, Confused of bath. Watola's ill-advised interview has been widely reported on the local news. I can only assume it was a case of our new owners offering him enough rope... I distinctly heard the m'lud say that the three judges dismissed the appeal and words to the effect that the case could not be referred to the Supreme Court, although that was not in the written judgement handed out at the end. I am not aware of the rules and regulations as to whether the club could apply themselves to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 22:44:04 GMT
If the Memorial Ground was our historical home I'd agree with you. It isn't and I don't. I'd still prefer to stay here rather than move, if it were realistic, but its not. I was avoiding the Eastville issue, as that is far too annoying. Yet another in the long list of BRFC mistakes. Now that site had the perfect footprint.... mmmm, well it is said our new owners are rich, could they buy out both tesco's and ikea? now that would be funny. Damn just woke up
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 22:59:00 GMT
I was avoiding the Eastville issue, as that is far too annoying. Yet another in the long list of BRFC mistakes. Now that site had the perfect footprint.... mmmm, well it is said our new owners are rich, could they buy out both tesco's and ikea? now that would be funny. Damn just woke up There's not a more appealing place for a stadium. Tesco and Ikea need not remain forever.
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Post by johnanagram on Mar 17, 2016 23:49:41 GMT
Nail on head Vaughan....... I said I wasn't having ago at you Vaughan but if you want me to I will. Would you have preferred that NH &Co did nothing to try and progress the club? Would you have preferred that there was "no hope" Yes with 20/20 hindsight maybe they did seek professional advice that, again with hindsight, may not have been correct but at least they tried., unlike some keyboard warriors who just moan moan moan. You have a great way of stabbing Nick the back when he is down. The club was left by the board in a sellable state, surely he deserves some credit for that but on second thoughts that ain'to ever going to happen, not on this forum. So let me get this straight "the club was in a sellable state".....Are we seriously expected to think that it would have been sold had the previous board had no other choice? I do not believe for one minute that it would have been sold had they seen any other way out? The club was on its knees at the point of sale, that is why it was sold. Don't lecture me about "not trying", or telling me that I'm a keyboard warrior because unlike you I did together with many others to try to get the club run in a different way. That was rejected in 2006.....Look where it finished up. I have consistently been critical of the previous board, no hindsight required. The record speaks for itself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 0:24:06 GMT
I said I wasn't having ago at you Vaughan but if you want me to I will. Would you have preferred that NH &Co did nothing to try and progress the club? Would you have preferred that there was "no hope" Yes with 20/20 hindsight maybe they did seek professional advice that, again with hindsight, may not have been correct but at least they tried., unlike some keyboard warriors who just moan moan moan. You have a great way of stabbing Nick the back when he is down. The club was left by the board in a sellable state, surely he deserves some credit for that but on second thoughts that ain'to ever going to happen, not on this forum. I have consistently been critical of the previous board
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Post by Bridgeman on Mar 18, 2016 3:23:52 GMT
I said I wasn't having ago at you Vaughan but if you want me to I will. Would you have preferred that NH &Co did nothing to try and progress the club? Would you have preferred that there was "no hope" Yes with 20/20 hindsight maybe they did seek professional advice that, again with hindsight, may not have been correct but at least they tried., unlike some keyboard warriors who just moan moan moan. You have a great way of stabbing Nick the back when he is down. The club was left by the board in a sellable state, surely he deserves some credit for that but on second thoughts that ain'to ever going to happen, not on this forum. So let me get this straight "the club was in a sellable state".....Are we seriously expected to think that it would have been sold had the previous board had no other choice? I do not believe for one minute that it would have been sold had they seen any other way out? The club was on its knees at the point of sale, that is why it was sold. Don't lecture me about "not trying", or telling me that I'm a keyboard warrior because unlike you I did together with many others to try to get the club run in a different way. That was rejected in 2006.....Look where it finished up. I have consistently been critical of the previous board, no hindsight required. The record speaks for itself. Post of the day
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Mar 18, 2016 6:48:53 GMT
I think what most of us have got upset about was the apparent inactivity for months, the occasional utterance from NH about "confidential" clauses preventing him telling us how it was going, followed by, "we're dotting the i's and crossing the t's on it, we should start building by September...". All the time he knew, and had no reason to doubt, that sainsburys wanted out, yet he kept stringing us along for years, not months!! I'm a gas head, I'm used to disappointment, but I'm an adult too, if only he could have been straight with us? Or was he really deluding himself?......
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Post by nerdgas on Mar 18, 2016 7:01:13 GMT
That's Life You wrote last Month: "Nick made the club attractive enough that he was able to sell it. All the naysayers need to accept that BRFC still exists thanks to Nick's efforts which by itself is enough to define him as good chairman." On this basis, let's politely agree to disagree. Well I have to agree with him. That is if 'making the club attractive enough" means spunking loads of cash away chasing a vanity court case, running up record debts and dragging the club to its knees so the only way out before administration was to sell it......
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 18, 2016 8:23:59 GMT
For anyone that sat in court (I did, albeit only for an hour or so at a time for a few days) or read the details of the original ruling, this will come as no surprise whatsoever. If you had millions of pounds riding on the outcome you'd have chased it too, despite the huge odds weighted against you. Let's hope this becomes an insignificant keynote in our history that simply preceded something much bigger and better.But certain people won't let it die because they constantly want to knife Sir Nick in the back for past deeds If and When the current owners of the club make a mistake or do something they don't agree with, lets hope these said people pursue them with the same passion
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Post by Teigngas on Mar 18, 2016 8:56:36 GMT
For anyone that sat in court (I did, albeit only for an hour or so at a time for a few days) or read the details of the original ruling, this will come as no surprise whatsoever. If you had millions of pounds riding on the outcome you'd have chased it too, despite the huge odds weighted against you. Let's hope this becomes an insignificant keynote in our history that simply preceded something much bigger and better.But certain people won't let it die because they constantly want to knife Sir Nick in the back for past deeds If and When the current owners of the club make a mistake or do something they don't agree with, lets hope these said people pursue them with the same passion "Pursuing" them, in my opinion, sounds a bit emotive - maybe giving due criticism is a better way of putting it? And certainly how I see it, do you genuinely not think that the criticism is deserved? If something similar happens with the current incumbents then yes, I will criticise them (I cannot speak for others naturally).
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Igitur
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Post by Igitur on Mar 18, 2016 9:03:19 GMT
Watola's ill-advised interview has been widely reported on the local news. I can only assume it was a case of our new owners offering him enough rope... I distinctly heard the m'lud say that the three judges dismissed the appeal and words to the effect that the case could not be referred to the Supreme Court, although that was not in the written judgement handed out at the end. I am not aware of the rules and regulations as to whether the club could apply themselves to do so. According to the WDP the new owners' lawyers are looking at the ruling with a view to an appeal to the Supreme Court, maybe I misheard the m'lud or there is another route. With a view to the Supreme Court - Stop! in the Name of Love. But After All (a Miracles song) or Because, A Breathtaking Guy (NH) asks Can I Get a Witness so that things may Come Together and maybe we could still get The Happening? TW - He's My Man who no matter what I say, he says, " I Second That Emotion" and I'll Try Something New and, fans, I'm Gonna Make You Love Me, although I'm Livin' in Shame alone In My Lonely Room, so please Let Me Go the Right Way as My Heart Can't Take It No More and Bristol Rovers, My World Is Empty Without You and although I have caused the fans Nothing but Heartaches I think Our Day Will Come and I can go to Italy, A Place in the Sun but fans Put Yourself in My Place 'cos Gasheads all I see are Reflections of you and me and Someday We'll Be Together. I may have caused Tears of Sorrow but I'm Too Hurt to Cry, Too Much in Love to Say Goodbye. I wanted to get Up the Ladder to the Roof of the new stadium and I ask Where Did Our Love Go and Where Do I Go from Here but You Can't Hurry Love? Maybe one day fans will sing Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah we've got a new ground.
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Post by nerdgas on Mar 18, 2016 9:09:51 GMT
For anyone that sat in court (I did, albeit only for an hour or so at a time for a few days) or read the details of the original ruling, this will come as no surprise whatsoever. If you had millions of pounds riding on the outcome you'd have chased it too, despite the huge odds weighted against you. Let's hope this becomes an insignificant keynote in our history that simply preceded something much bigger and better.But certain people won't let it die because they constantly want to knife Sir Nick in the back for past deeds If and When the current owners of the club make a mistake or do something they don't agree with, lets hope these said people pursue them with the same passion If they lie to the fans, ban fans for questioning decisions, send them on a trip to another ground we are supposed to moving to whilst knowing it's not happening, spend years chasing a court case most know is dead in the water, appoint disastrous manager after manager and take us down to the conference the yes I expect people will 'chase them with a passion'.....
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Post by Angas on Mar 18, 2016 9:12:42 GMT
From what Toni Watola said yesterday, we can ask the Supreme Court direct for permission to appeal to them. It's then their decision whether to agree or not.
I imagine the judges yesterday don't believe the SC will be interested in the case, but there is a system in place for the SC to make their own decision if we wish to persist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 9:13:43 GMT
But certain people won't let it die because they constantly want to knife Sir Nick in the back for past deeds If and When the current owners of the club make a mistake or do something they don't agree with, lets hope these said people pursue them with the same passion If they lie to the fans, ban fans for questioning decisions, send them on a trip to another ground we are supposed to moving to whilst knowing it's not happening, spend years chasing a court case most know is dead in the water, appoint disastrous manager after manager and take us down to the conference the yes I expect people will 'chase them with a passion'..... Some will Nerdy but some will also say that they are putting their own money in and there is nobody else out there willing to take on an under performing big city football club. They will then give those headless leaders a knighthood.
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