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Post by brizzle on Feb 26, 2016 13:42:00 GMT
Has the club made an announcement on the matter yet? Because if they have then I've missed it. No surprise there though.  |
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 26, 2016 13:48:16 GMT
If true, here is a reason to have a "Rovers way" as opposed to an "any manager that pops up way". I am referring to a general philosophy which can be changed game by game dependent upon specific requirements; not a rigid formation cast in stone. Over the past 50 years I'd suggest Rovers have erred on the side of "taking the game to the opposition" and that is what the fans have come to understand and appreciate. It's why they turn up. It then makes recruitment far easier as you have a starting point and many will exclude themselves by having a different culture. You might well unearth talent which is on the same wavelength. Academy players know exactly what to expect when the opportunity of first team football comes along. I can only state that I write what I believe to be true. Alan Walsh is way too savvy to have been involved with any of the gossip and info/disinfo. I used to talk with a fair few of the under 18's side, at the time when Shaquille Hunter made his remark about the dead Scottish team. I have to admit that I would love to know what Alan has gone though. I guess I would like to know if it was something he had already decided prior to the takeover Not questioning you. My comment is merely as this is, to me, third party information and used to make a point. |
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Post by tanksfull on Feb 26, 2016 14:07:19 GMT
If true, here is a reason to have a "Rovers way" as opposed to an "any manager that pops up way". I am referring to a general philosophy which can be changed game by game dependent upon specific requirements; not a rigid formation cast in stone. Over the past 50 years I'd suggest Rovers have erred on the side of "taking the game to the opposition" and that is what the fans have come to understand and appreciate. It's why they turn up. It then makes recruitment far easier as you have a starting point and many will exclude themselves by having a different culture. You might well unearth talent which is on the same wavelength. Academy players know exactly what to expect when the opportunity of first team football comes along. To have a Rovers way while we are looking at evolution for the club, suggests a DOF is required. Not to be involved in first team activities but to put all the infrastructure is in place. This is no slight on the manager but more a case for setting up a good structure outside the managers remit. That is a possible route although any manager should have the right to final player selection whether that be who is brought in or who plays. My thinking was more to ensure an ongoing philosophy and playing style. It means everyone is then singing from the same song sheet right throughout the Club. When someone leaves you are looking more for a person with the right style than having to start again The players already there are possibly more likely to be suitable and the youth teams will all be playing with the right attitude, style and philosophy ready to feed in. That does not mean the team only plays in one way or the manager cannot change things around. I'm not convinced a DOF is needed for that (certainly for us at present) and in any case what do you do if the DOF goes for any reason. A DOF has no real accountability and seem to get away with almost anything in other clubs. I'm still a believer that the manager is the most important person (for on the field activity) but he has to be the right person with the right playing style. Even the "great" Manchester United seem to have employed two managers who the fans don't like because of the way the team is playing more so than how successful they have been. LVG has spent millions on players to pass the ball sideways and backwards. |
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 26, 2016 14:30:53 GMT
To have a Rovers way while we are looking at evolution for the club, suggests a DOF is required. Not to be involved in first team activities but to put all the infrastructure is in place. This is no slight on the manager but more a case for setting up a good structure outside the managers remit. That is a possible route although any manager should have the right to final player selection whether that be who is brought in or who plays. My thinking was more to ensure an ongoing philosophy and playing style. It means everyone is then singing from the same song sheet right throughout the Club. When someone leaves you are looking more for a person with the right style than having to start again The players already there are possibly more likely to be suitable and the youth teams will all be playing with the right attitude, style and philosophy ready to feed in. That does not mean the team only plays in one way or the manager cannot change things around. I'm not convinced a DOF is needed for that (certainly for us at present) and in any case what do you do if the DOF goes for any reason. A DOF has no real accountability and seem to get away with almost anything in other clubs. I'm still a believer that the manager is the most important person (for on the field activity) but he has to be the right person with the right playing style. Even the "great" Manchester United seem to have employed two managers who the fans don't like because of the way the team is playing more so than how successful they have been. LVG has spent millions on players to pass the ball sideways and backwards. But the issue for Man U, Liverpool and next Arsenal is that when the successful manager moves there is no succession planning. A DOF will have included this in the master plan. Our own lesson is that when the manager changes it has resulted in a major rebuild. I see this as another part of the evolution plan. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 15:14:16 GMT
His wikipedia entry has been updated, but of course that proves absolutely nowt. If it is true though, it would be a shame cos he seemed to be doing a decent job. But as the new owner has put great emphasis on developing our own talent, then who knows eh? Yes can confirm AW. Has gone I have a relation in the U18's Strange that because he has just told me nothing has happened to date and cannot comment on rumours |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 17:44:47 GMT
Fantastic bloke Alan Walsh. As genuine as the day is long in an industry which is anything but. Spot on mate. Always had time to talk but never involved in gossip. Scored at Twerton Park deflected off the referees ass I seem to recall. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 26, 2016 18:24:20 GMT
Has the club made an announcement on the matter yet? Because if they have then I've missed it. No surprise there though. We'll we can hardly blame the usual suspect now as he's long gone, so who is in charge of the club PR Dept? Perhaps they could also confirm if TW is staying or also gone? |
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Post by lostinspace on Feb 26, 2016 18:56:24 GMT
Spot on mate. Always had time to talk but never involved in gossip. Scored at Twerton Park deflected off the referees ass I seem to recall. bet the ref was in an offside position too  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:04:37 GMT
Perhaps DC wants to being in his own man but has never been able to whilst NH run the show? When did one of his players actually make it to being a regular first team player for a club with such an academy the number of youngsters making the step up has been poor in my view. some have been snapped up by other clubs |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:08:51 GMT
Scored at Twerton Park deflected off the referees ass I seem to recall. bet the ref was in an offside position too I recall wrong. The pass was off the refs ass and your bloke on the line plays him onside. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 23:15:24 GMT
I spent a couple of weeks in Alan Walsh's Community Department on 'work' experience nearly 20 years ago and he has been and gone at least once since then.
He's far too nice a man to have been a football manager, in my opinion. I hope he's left for a good reason, but I'm sure its happened too soon to have been a decision taken by the new regime. I can't imagine he'd be the first person in their sights?
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Post by Rex on Feb 27, 2016 7:38:47 GMT
Has the club made an announcement on the matter yet? Because if they have then I've missed it. No surprise there though. We'll we can hardly blame the usual suspect now as he's long gone, so who is in charge of the club PR Dept? Perhaps they could also confirm if TW is staying or also gone? Al Qadi out. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 9:30:11 GMT
I spent a couple of weeks in Alan Walsh's Community Department on 'work' experience nearly 20 years ago and he has been and gone at least once since then. He's far too nice a man to have been a football manager, in my opinion. I hope he's left for a good reason, but I'm sure its happened too soon to have been a decision taken by the new regime. I can't imagine he'd be the first person in their sights? If he has left then I hope he gets something somewhere in the game. I used to chat with him fairly often down the years and you're dead right he's not enough of a **** to be a manager. However he has a fantastic knowledge of the game and a lot to offer. A Bath City, Mangotsfield - anyone like that... |
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 27, 2016 10:41:33 GMT
I believe this could be associated with his bad health more likely than being sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 14:02:50 GMT
At this moment in time Alan Walsh is still employed by Bristol Rovers
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Post by markczgas on Feb 28, 2016 17:22:56 GMT
On a side note - I spoke to somebody in The Youth Dept very recently and they informed me that the U18s hadn't trained on grass for 15 weeks because of the poor state of facilities - shocking I'm sure you agree.
I sincerely hope the new owner will address this for the start of next season otherwise we are not going to attract talent in Bristol and we aren't going to produce jaxks**t for the 1st team.
UTG !
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Post by gashead65 on Mar 17, 2016 19:30:46 GMT
On a side note - I spoke to somebody in The Youth Dept very recently and they informed me that the U18s hadn't trained on grass for 15 weeks because of the poor state of facilities - shocking I'm sure you agree. I sincerely hope the new owner will address this for the start of next season otherwise we are not going to attract talent in Bristol and we aren't going to produce jaxks*** for the 1st team. UTG ! a |
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Post by gashead65 on Mar 17, 2016 19:36:36 GMT
On a side note - I spoke to somebody in The Youth Dept very recently and they informed me that the U18s hadn't trained on grass for 15 weeks because of the poor state of facilities - shocking I'm sure you agree. I sincerely hope the new owner will address this for the start of next season otherwise we are not going to attract talent in Bristol and we aren't going to produce jaxks*** for the 1st team. UTG ! a Apparently Alan Walsh is suspended not sacked. Reported that certain parents of youth team unhappy he hadn't selected their son to play and used bad language - they reported him to the club who have suspended him pending an investigation. If true our u18's need to man up a bit!! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 17, 2016 20:14:11 GMT
Apparently Alan Walsh is suspended not sacked. Reported that certain parents of youth team unhappy he hadn't selected their son to play and used bad language - they reported him to the club who have suspended him pending an investigation. If true our u18's need to man up a bit!! If the kids are U18 then, if proven, I don't think there's any excuse for bad language in front of school children, although this is dragging on a bit as how long does it take to question parents?? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 1:20:03 GMT
happens through every age group always one gobby parent ;unhappy; their son isnt getting a start
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