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Post by gingergas on Feb 13, 2016 21:10:36 GMT
Stops Lee Brown from attacking, can't create chances or take chances. Why do we have him in our team?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 13, 2016 21:37:40 GMT
Have to be fair and say he can (and I stress, can) deliver a cross. From the left.
So can Browners, and did a couple of times today v Pompuspey.
I've seen him in almost every game he's appeared. It's such a shame as I so want him and every player to play well, but his whole stance seems wrong.
He plays like he has more time on the ball than he really has. The problem is he is almost always robbed of possession. He has no tricks in locker. He rarely takes his man on outside. He rarely makes runs that stretches defences. He rarely tackles back.
On a break, on a counter attack, one of our most important moves that reaps us rewards, he checks back and sideways. He doesn't run with ball or have pace.
I struggle to see why he is included, apart from the fact we have no one else to play naturally left wing(?)
His contributions haven't been good enough at this level, can anyone remember any astounding assist or sublime cross? Or even a thorough beating of a right back?
It's a Monkhouse position that hasn't been replaced and is needed, but hey, he can deliver a decent cross! .....oh, and tamely side foot a shot to a keeper.
Grrrrr..
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Post by kwoodgas on Feb 13, 2016 21:57:55 GMT
Have to be fair and say he can (and I stress, can) deliver a cross. From the left. So can Browners, and did a couple of times today v Pompuspey. I've seen him in almost every game he's appeared. It's such a shame as I so want him and every player to play well, but his whole stance seems wrong. He plays like he has more time on the ball than he really has. The problem is he is almost always robbed of possession. He has no tricks in locker. He rarely takes his man on outside. He rarely makes runs that stretches defences. He rarely tackles back. On a break, on a counter attack, one of our most important moves that reaps us rewards, he checks back and sideways. He doesn't run with ball or have pace. I struggle to see why he is included, apart from the fact we have no one else to play naturally left wing(?) His contributions haven't been good enough at this level, can anyone remember any astounding assist or sublime cross? Or even a thorough beating of a right back? It's a Monkhouse position that hasn't been replaced and is needed, but hey, he can deliver a decent cross! .....oh, and tamely side foot a shot to a keeper. Grrrrr.. Still baffles me we never signed Adam Dawson, with the right coaching he could be one hell of a player. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 22:17:07 GMT
By Montano's standards I thought he had a decent game today, he put himself about more than usual and even managed to earn a booking. 4/10.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 13, 2016 22:39:40 GMT
and even managed to earn a booking |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Feb 13, 2016 23:31:45 GMT
Montano was poor, but was so was most of the team today. However, that pathetic shot he had towards the end was embarrassing. It was more like a pass back.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Feb 13, 2016 23:40:18 GMT
Too much mediocrity in our team.Strikers who don't score but Lines who played well second half v Argyle doesn't play?Far better than Lawrence surely?1 point from 9 in last three games underlines our lack of quality.Well done Stevie Milds.
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Post by mrbluesky on Feb 14, 2016 1:31:28 GMT
the last poster says were mediocre but were just promoted out of non league and were in 7th place which is a fantastic effort.
maybe montano is just one of those signings that isnt going to work out but at least with our 1 year deal set up its not the end of the world
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Post by stapletongas on Feb 14, 2016 8:17:01 GMT
Have to be fair and say he can (and I stress, can) deliver a cross. From the left. So can Browners, and did a couple of times today v Pompuspey. I've seen him in almost every game he's appeared. It's such a shame as I so want him and every player to play well, but his whole stance seems wrong. He plays like he has more time on the ball than he really has. The problem is he is almost always robbed of possession. He has no tricks in locker. He rarely takes his man on outside. He rarely makes runs that stretches defences. He rarely tackles back. On a break, on a counter attack, one of our most important moves that reaps us rewards, he checks back and sideways. He doesn't run with ball or have pace. I struggle to see why he is included, apart from the fact we have no one else to play naturally left wing(?) His contributions haven't been good enough at this level, can anyone remember any astounding assist or sublime cross? Or even a thorough beating of a right back? It's a Monkhouse position that hasn't been replaced and is needed, but hey, he can deliver a decent cross! .....oh, and tamely side foot a shot to a keeper. Grrrrr.. Still baffles me we never signed Adam Dawson, with the right coaching he could be one hell of a player. Adam Dawson finished the season with a hernia and is now revering from an op |
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Post by kwoodgas on Feb 14, 2016 9:15:08 GMT
Still baffles me we never signed Adam Dawson, with the right coaching he could be one hell of a player. Adam Dawson finished the season with a hernia and is now revering from an op Sure that hasn't happened since mate? He played in pre-season for Kiddy and scored a very good goal against Brum which is on youtube. The fact last season the second worst Columbia ever to play football was often picked ahead of him showed DC clearly didn't rate him that highly. |
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 14, 2016 10:36:40 GMT
I fail to see why,after yesterday Christian Montano is singled out as he was no worse than 6 or 7 other players and questionably did better than most of that 6 or 7 in that he did at least manage to get a couple of shots away! To say he stopped Lee Brown from attacking is ridiculous as half the reason we were so poor was down to Lee Browns very poor defensive performance. In fact Lee Brown can only receive an average mark for yesterdays performance based on the his attacking play. How many tackles did Lee Brown win? How often was he actually close marking any player? It is true that Andy Monkhouse was superb last season but Andy Monkhouse was a midfield player and not a winger- he didn't want to do what a winger does which is run down the wing and get a cross in- Montano can and has shown he can do this but his main problem is......Lee Brown. Lee Brown for all his good qualities does not encourage a winger because he does not release the ball quickly-he in fact slows the game down by holding onto it himself until he gets closed down and will then give the ball and expect to be played in behind.In that aspect he is a very selfish player and the only reason a winger is out there is to cover him defensively when he runs forward.
In a 4-4-2 formation Lee Brown should be ensuring his winger is not creating havoc as a priority and giving the ball to the winger to do the attacking. No NATURAL winger wants the full back using his space and no natural winger wants to spend all his time running back to defend.
I am not saying Christian Montano is particulary good but to be fair to him playing in front of Lee Brown he is unlikely to be. Adam Dawson was only good when played on the right side.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 11:53:15 GMT
So we excuse a scapegoat by creating a new one?
In that case Lee Brown had to play like a wingback because Liam Lawrence went missing...etc.
It was just a crap performance all round. I could think up reasons to excuse a few of them from criticism, but really we were all-round crap yesterday and if we win as a team then we lose as a team, so my verdict is they were all crap yesterday.
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Feb 14, 2016 12:11:22 GMT
IMO Clarke got it completely wrong and did not have the ***** to change it; pompey were all over us from the kick off, after twenty minutes, I would have replaced Lawrence for Lines, Taylor for Easter. Billy Bodin and Parkes were shocking, worst performance in two seasons, no energy and we were lucky not to concede at least eight.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 14, 2016 15:11:35 GMT
IMO Clarke got it completely wrong and did not have the ***** to change it; pompey were all over us from the kick off, after twenty minutes, I would have replaced Lawrence for Lines, Taylor for Easter. Billy Bodin and Parkes were shocking, worst performance in two seasons, no energy and we were lucky not to concede at least eight. That's it! We were poor early on, (even though it was kind of end to end in first half), relying solely on counter attack,....why? Because we weren't performing as a team. No passing and movement that was instrumental in offence. DC didn't make the necessary changes soon enough. But akin to that, Hanna Montana made no reasonable change or contribution. When, as a substitute because others haven't performed, he gets an opportunity.....he doesn't take it. Again. It's not the first time failed to impress, I'm sure he tries his best but this isn't what we need at the moment. |
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Post by brizzle on Feb 14, 2016 18:59:36 GMT
IMO Clarke got it completely wrong and did not have the ***** to change it; pompey were all over us from the kick off, after twenty minutes, I would have replaced Lawrence for Lines, Taylor for Easter. Billy Bodin and Parkes were shocking, worst performance in two seasons, no energy and we were lucky not to concede at least eight. Wow, go for it Peter. It sounds to me as though you're building up for the thrill there.  |
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Post by stapletongas on Feb 14, 2016 21:27:18 GMT
Adam Dawson finished the season with a hernia and is now revering from an op Sure that hasn't happened since mate? He played in pre-season for Kiddy and scored a very good goal against Brum which is on youtube. The fact last season the second worst Columbia ever to play football was often picked ahead of him showed DC clearly didn't rate him that highly. Dawson has talked about his op on twitter |
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Post by pirateer on Feb 15, 2016 12:52:32 GMT
Sure that hasn't happened since mate? He played in pre-season for Kiddy and scored a very good goal against Brum which is on youtube. The fact last season the second worst Columbia ever to play football was often picked ahead of him showed DC clearly didn't rate him that highly. Dawson has talked about his op on twitter he is at Tranmere on loan from Kiddie, although currently injured. from wikipedia: On the 31 July 2015, Dawson signed a one-year contract with Kidderminster Harriers after impressing during pre season, including a goal in a 1-1 draw against Birmingham City. On 10th of September 2015, Dawson signed for Tranmere Rovers on a three-month loan. he did seem like he had the ability and he could certainly get a cross in the box, so maybe there is an issue with something else such as his attitude? |
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Post by DudeLebowski on Feb 15, 2016 15:11:27 GMT
Certainly annoyed me to see Montano's total lack of f***s given when he let the chap run through basically unchallenged to tee up the third goal. Mildy jumped up after it went in, giving him an absolute rollicking & CM just stood there and shrugged his shoulders.
Just topped off the most forgettable 90mins of the season so far. Newport at home included.
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Post by brizzle on Feb 15, 2016 16:19:02 GMT
Certainly annoyed me to see Montano's total lack of f***s given when he let the chap run through basically unchallenged to tee up the third goal. Mildy jumped up after it went in, giving him an absolute rollicking & CM just stood there and shrugged his shoulders. Just topped off the most forgettable 90mins of the season so far. Newport at home included.God's teeth, that bad eh?  |
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Post by LPGas on Feb 15, 2016 19:17:46 GMT
When we play wing backs Brown over takes the midfield, who drop back and cover him ( in theory) When we play 4-4-2, Brown stays back to defend and the mid field and wingers do the over lapping.
I like Montano, best wide man we have had for a long time, can cross, and beat players. He would be even better if he played more. He can also out run Lawrence, but then so can the rest of the squad and half the supporters
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