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Post by stevek192 on Nov 25, 2015 11:38:22 GMT
After the home win against Carlisle this was a case of back to normal with another home defeat. The worrying thing is we are now into a notoriously bad period for Bristol Rovers. November December is rarely very generous on the points gained. I must admit that even I am becoming disillusioned with the home form and really the way we are actually playing. We are letting in too many wonder goals and by that I mean longshots in that everyone seems to be hitting the net, the reason I see from this is that we are defending too deep and so players are being given room and the time/space they need which is meaning that most shots from long range they are having the time to get them on target. How much of this is down to the keeper I am not really sure but I feel disappointed that he has now been beaten on his near post with longshots on three occasions. The performances very much remind me of the final period of Paul buckles managerial stint as a defence stay too deep, the midfielder rarely in the opponents half and we are playing with two forwards who have little hope of winning balls in the air. It seems we have another winger who likes to go inside rather than stretch the defence out wide and I despair of Daryl Clarkes tactics. What is also worrying is the defeat last Saturday which hopefully is just a blip in our away form but the problem is we are playing a very good Exeter side on Saturday and a poor result Saturday could lead us to nearer the bottom than the top.
It seems that many fans are also becoming disillusioned with the performances at home and the low crowd obviously points to a dissatisfaction. Too much of the good football played by Clarks side is in our own half of the pitch; our midfield players are reluctant to pass forward unless it is a 40 yard pass from Lines.
Nichols 5 a reasonable overall game although he had little in the way of shots to save but I must put a question mark over the winning goal which seemed to go inside his near post although it was a hard shot it was not in the roof of the net and therefore in my mind should've been saved.
James Clark 5 I can't really understand why DC continually picks James Clark as a fullback ahead of Leadbitter who is much better going forward and also, in my mind, a better defensive fallback than Clark. Too often he leaves his winger with far too much space which enables the winger to get in dangerous crosses.
Tom Lockyear 5 Not one of Tom's best performances. Far too deep and when he received the ball on many occasions his passing was back to that of last season,either very poor or far too long for anybody to reach. He was not helped by Parkes inability to mark players closely and fully concentrate.
Tom Parkes 5. I would quiery Tom Parkes positioning on both goals and even bringing out the ball from defence I was worried as his passing is again questionable. The problem we have is that McChrystal was pour last Saturday and it must be said that both our main centre halves have been inconsistent this season.
Lee Brown 5.5 before the game I felt it would be interesting to see how the new winger played in front of Lee Brown, I believe that Lee is one of the problems that we have when playing a left winger because he is more attacking than defending and takes up the position that the winner takes and therefore the winger tends to go inside. He rarely passes the ball accurately to the winger rather bringing it forward and then pass it either long into the box or short to receive a return. Many of his crosses lack quality and I would prefer to see him defend properly and bring his winger into the game quickly.
Bodin 5.5 lots of silky skills but not much in the way of an end product. He's not helped by having James Clark behind him as most of Clarks passing is long and does not tend to be a quick release of the ball which will give the winger time to control the ball and run at his defender. He does always look likely to score a goal and that is why he holds on to his place.
Stuart Sinclair 6.5 as usual a hard-working performance but far too much of the time he spends with the ball is either passing sideways or back. He does not look very likely to score a goal and this is a problem in our midfield department where we get very few goals other than Bodin. At the moment Stu is winning a lot of the ball but is doing very little creative with it.
Chris lines 6.5 this was another lazy performance from Chris and by that I don't mean his passing because that was at times brilliant regarding long passing but very rarely does he venture out of our own half. With Sinclair playing reasonably deep as well it means we get very little in the way of creativity in the opponents half. This is not the Chris Lines of old in that he very rarely looks like scoring a goal and in fact very rarely even has a shot at goal.
Paris Cohen Halls 5.5 set up Taylor with a brilliant pass for Taylor his goal but apart from that he does not look like the winger we are after. He does look more like a forward who was designated to play on the wing but I am not sure whether this is his normal game or whether it is just because Lee Brown charges forward and takes a space which the winger should be covering. I have yet to see a winger who actually combines well with the Brown other than Monkhouse who was not that keen on going down the wing himself but was exceptional at playing Brown in.
Taylor 9 MOM by a country mile. He is in a purple patch as regards scoring and took his goal very well both in terms of the skill to control the pass and the finish just inside the far post. His build up play was of the highest quality and at the moment he always looks like scoring. he could have had another couple as well.
Easter 5 Missed a golden chance in the second half but overall he does not look like a striker but a midfield player. I would think of playing him in midfield where he would be less relied on to score but is very creative but always playing far too deep.
Harrison 5 Missed a good opportunity but did little else.
Montano 5 Didn't do much but to be fair he didn't receive much in the way of service. When he did get the ball he generally found our player with a pass.Until he is given a fair run in the side we will not see the best of him
Leadbitter 5 A couple of good runs
Referee 4 God the standard of refereeing in this League is as bad as the Conference.
Stevenage 5 Another side that we have made look good by giving them far too much time on the ball.
DC Is becoming very predictable now with both his tactics (or lack of them) and his aftermatch comments. His substitutions are very much like for like and it is now near the end of November and we still haven't got an answer to the home form. Can he not see that we play too deep and that wingers need the ball to be passed to them quickly. Most games we end up with all subs having been used and IMO this is due to poor selection and tactics. Until we start playing the defence further up the field and the midfield likewise I cannot see any improvement in our home record. DC talks of good football but if he thinks that passing backwards and sideways and across the back four is good football then heaven help us. His biggest problem is that he has not signed physical presence in the key areas Goalkeeper,Centre half,Cental midfield and centre forward. The only spell we looked redasonably good was just after we scored when we even saw 4 players forward pressurising the home defence but even then Lines and Sinclair were rarely backing them up. Continually passing the ball back to Lockyer and Parkes neither of whom can consistently pass a ball well is not good football and the first goal was scored because we were far too deep and blocked the keepers view. Why he played the new player on the left when he is a right winger does not surprise me but unfortunately the longer this home form continues the less likely he is to see the season through which will be a shame.
Saturday is a very important game after the last two defeats but in all honesty we will be lucky to come back with a point on Saturday,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 12:13:42 GMT
That's because Clarke put him on the left wing, maybe he forgot that the player crosses with his right foot? In every single game there are simple basics that Clarke fails to get right.
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Post by vaughan on Nov 25, 2015 12:38:18 GMT
Thanks Steve His after the match comments were pitiful as it indicated that he really does not have a clue on how to address the pathetic home form. You are right in everything you say. IMO we are extremely fit as a team and we have some very good natural defenders (Lockyer is a star in the making) so we should adopt a more pressing game, higher up the pitch and start to commit midfield players (Lines) to run past the forwards. An away side has to "feel under pressure" and they have a very easy time at the Mem (we are too deep and slow in build-up). He is quick to look at individuals (strikers missing chances, dips in form) without addressing the fundamentals. Losing confidence in DC ....although please note the following caveat. The reason we signed Nichols and not Chapman, is that Wigan have offered him FOC, whereas Chapman would have cost us after the second month of his loan from Chesterfield. The justification given is BS. If we are not prepared as a club to invest in key position, then we are doomed to mediocrity (Oldie - that's me being a politician New low? for me it's Kelvin Zero ref this BOD. Looking forward to hearing about the easy time our beloved SC will give NH tonight. On the pitch, 5 defeats in last 7 - home defeats to Newport, Chesham and Stevenage. No big deal.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 25, 2015 12:41:20 GMT
After the home win against Carlisle this was a case of back to normal with another home defeat. The worrying thing is we are now into a notoriously bad period for Bristol Rovers. November December is rarely very generous on the points gained. I must admit that even I am becoming disillusioned with the home form and really the way we are actually playing. We are letting in too many wonder goals and by that I mean longshots in that everyone seems to be hitting the net, the reason I see from this is that we are defending too deep and so players are being given room and the time/space they need which is meaning that most shots from long range they are having the time to get them on target. How much of this is down to the keeper I am not really sure but I feel disappointed that he has now been beaten on his near post with longshots on three occasions. The performances very much remind me of the final period of Paul buckles managerial stint as a defence stay too deep, the midfielder rarely in the opponents half and we are playing with two forwards who have little hope of winning balls in the air. It seems we have another winger who likes to go inside rather than stretch the defence out wide and I despair of Daryl Clarkes tactics. What is also worrying is the defeat last Saturday which hopefully is just a blip in our away form but the problem is we are playing a very good Exeter side on Saturday and a poor result Saturday could lead us to nearer the bottom than the top. It seems that many fans are also becoming disillusioned with the performances at home and the low crowd obviously points to a dissatisfaction. Too much of the good football played by Clarks side is in our own half of the pitch; our midfield players are reluctant to pass forward unless it is a 40 yard pass from Lines. Nichols 5 a reasonable overall game although he had little in the way of shots to save but I must put a question mark over the winning goal which seemed to go inside his near post although it was a hard shot it was not in the roof of the net and therefore in my mind should've been saved. James Clark 5 I can't really understand why DC continually picks James Clark as a fullback ahead of Leadbitter who is much better going forward and also, in my mind, a better defensive fallback than Clark. Too often he leaves his winger with far too much space which enables the winger to get in dangerous crosses. Tom Lockyear 5 Not one of Tom's best performances. Far too deep and when he received the ball on many occasions his passing was back to that of last season,either very poor or far too long for anybody to reach. He was not helped by Parkes inability to mark players closely and fully concentrate. Tom Parkes 5. I would quiery Tom Parkes positioning on both goals and even bringing out the ball from defence I was worried as his passing is again questionable. The problem we have is that McChrystal was pour last Saturday and it must be said that both our main centre halves have been inconsistent this season. Lee Brown 5.5 before the game I felt it would be interesting to see how the new winger played in front of Lee Brown, I believe that Lee is one of the problems that we have when playing a left winger because he is more attacking than defending and takes up the position that the winner takes and therefore the winger tends to go inside. He rarely passes the ball accurately to the winger rather bringing it forward and then pass it either long into the box or short to receive a return. Many of his crosses lack quality and I would prefer to see him defend properly and bring his winger into the game quickly. Bodin 5.5 lots of silky skills but not much in the way of an end product. He's not helped by having James Clark behind him as most of Clarks passing is long and does not tend to be a quick release of the ball which will give the winger time to control the ball and run at his defender. He does always look likely to score a goal and that is why he holds on to his place. Stuart Sinclair 6.5 as usual a hard-working performance but far too much of the time he spends with the ball is either passing sideways or back. He does not look very likely to score a goal and this is a problem in our midfield department where we get very few goals other than Bodin. At the moment Stu is winning a lot of the ball but is doing very little creative with it. Chris lines 6.5 this was another lazy performance from Chris and by that I don't mean his passing because that was at times brilliant regarding long passing but very rarely does he venture out of our own half. With Sinclair playing reasonably deep as well it means we get very little in the way of creativity in the opponents half. This is not the Chris Lines of old in that he very rarely looks like scoring a goal and in fact very rarely even has a shot at goal. Paris Cohen Halls 5.5 set up Taylor with a brilliant pass for Taylor his goal but apart from that he does not look like the winger we are after. He does look more like a forward who was designated to play on the wing but I am not sure whether this is his normal game or whether it is just because Lee Brown charges forward and takes a space which the winger should be covering. I have yet to see a winger who actually combines well with the Brown other than Monkhouse who was not that keen on going down the wing himself but was exceptional at playing Brown in. Taylor 9 MOM by a country mile. He is in a purple patch as regards scoring and took his goal very well both in terms of the skill to control the pass and the finish just inside the far post. His build up play was of the highest quality and at the moment he always looks like scoring. he could have had another couple as well. Easter 5 Missed a golden chance in the second half but overall he does not look like a striker but a midfield player. I would think of playing him in midfield where he would be less relied on to score but is very creative but always playing far too deep. Harrison 5 Missed a good opportunity but did little else. Montano 5 Didn't do much but to be fair he didn't receive much in the way of service. When he did get the ball he generally found our player with a pass.Until he is given a fair run in the side we will not see the best of him Leadbitter 5 A couple of good runs Referee 4 God the standard of refereeing in this League is as bad as the Conference. Stevenage 5 Another side that we have made look good by giving them far too much time on the ball. DC Is becoming very predictable now with both his tactics (or lack of them) and his aftermatch comments. His substitutions are very much like for like and it is now near the end of November and we still haven't got an answer to the home form. Can he not see that we play too deep and that wingers need the ball to be passed to them quickly. Most games we end up with all subs having been used and IMO this is due to poor selection and tactics. Until we start playing the defence further up the field and the midfield likewise I cannot see any improvement in our home record. DC talks of good football but if he thinks that passing backwards and sideways and across the back four is good football then heaven help us. His biggest problem is that he has not signed physical presence in the key areas Goalkeeper,Centre half,Cental midfield and centre forward. The only spell we looked redasonably good was just after we scored when we even saw 4 players forward pressurising the home defence but even then Lines and Sinclair were rarely backing them up. Continually passing the ball back to Lockyer and Parkes neither of whom can consistently pass a ball well is not good football and the first goal was scored because we were far too deep and blocked the keepers view. Why he played the new player on the left when he is a right winger does not surprise me but unfortunately the longer this home form continues the less likely he is to see the season through which will be a shame. Saturday is a very important game after the last two defeats but in all honesty we will be lucky to come back with a point on Saturday, Thanks Steve. Another great write up and analysis of the performance and the way the team are sitting back. Why we play like this at home but seem to be able to push further up, when away, just bewilders me. I have been too quick to put the boot into previous managers and so I will hold back from that right now but I am getting worried that all is not well in camp. I always saw Linesy as a Jekyll and Hyde player, he seems to do better and even well when we have better opposition but seems to go off the boil when we are not really in the mix. He is another that I have criticised before and so I am trying, very hard, not to put the boot in right now. I am worried that our season could be derailing. I did say that I would only judge our prospects after the Christmas period. I desperately hope that we manage to get back in gear and are in with a chance of a play off spot by then but, right now, I do not feel at all confident that we have the right players & tactics to make a concerted push but, of course, I write this in the hope that I am once again proved wrong by DC
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 25, 2015 13:01:23 GMT
Possible deflection on second goal?
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 25, 2015 13:01:53 GMT
Thanks Steve His after the match comments were pitiful as it indicated that he really does not have a clue on how to address the pathetic home form. You are right in everything you say. IMO we are extremely fit as a team and we have some very good natural defenders (Lockyer is a star in the making) so we should adopt a more pressing game, higher up the pitch and start to commit midfield players (Lines) to run past the forwards. An away side has to "feel under pressure" and they have a very easy time at the Mem (we are too deep and slow in build-up). He is quick to look at individuals (strikers missing chances, dips in form) without addressing the fundamentals. Losing confidence in DC ....although please note the following caveat. The reason we signed Nichols and not Chapman, is that Wigan have offered him FOC, whereas Chapman would have cost us after the second month of his loan from Chesterfield. The justification given is BS. If we are not prepared as a club to invest in key position, then we are doomed to mediocrity (Oldie - that's me being a politician New low? for me it's Kelvin Zero ref this BOD. Looking forward to hearing about the easy time our beloved SC will give NH tonight. On the pitch, 5 defeats in last 7 - home defeats to Newport, Chesham and Stevenage. No big deal. But four points off the play offs with a game in hand. Equally, it's no desperate situation either. Contrary to the predictable usual panic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 13:03:31 GMT
Chris lines 6.5 this was another lazy performance from Chris and by that I don't mean his passing because that was at times brilliant regarding long passing but very rarely does he venture out of our own half. With Sinclair playing reasonably deep as well it means we get very little in the way of creativity in the opponents half. This is not the Chris Lines of old in that he very rarely looks like scoring a goal and in fact very rarely even has a shot at goal.
This is exactly the Lines that we had last time around, lazy, no interest whatsoever in doing anything that means he may get hurt and only wants to do the Hollywood stuff. And that's why a player with easily enough talent to be in L1 or above signed for a 5th tier team. How many of us would simply love to have been born with his talent, that just makes it more frustrating watching him swanning around on the pitch.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 25, 2015 13:04:14 GMT
Thanks Steve His after the match comments were pitiful as it indicated that he really does not have a clue on how to address the pathetic home form. You are right in everything you say. IMO we are extremely fit as a team and we have some very good natural defenders (Lockyer is a star in the making) so we should adopt a more pressing game, higher up the pitch and start to commit midfield players (Lines) to run past the forwards. An away side has to "feel under pressure" and they have a very easy time at the Mem (we are too deep and slow in build-up). He is quick to look at individuals (strikers missing chances, dips in form) without addressing the fundamentals. Losing confidence in DC ....although please note the following caveat. The reason we signed Nichols and not Chapman, is that Wigan have offered him FOC, whereas Chapman would have cost us after the second month of his loan from Chesterfield. The justification given is BS. If we are not prepared as a club to invest in key position, then we are doomed to mediocrity (Oldie - that's me being a politician New low? for me it's Kelvin Zero ref this BOD. Looking forward to hearing about the easy time our beloved SC will give NH tonight. On the pitch, 5 defeats in last 7 - home defeats to Newport, Chesham and Stevenage. No big deal. But four points off the play offs with a game in hand. Equally, it's no desperate situation either. Contrary to the predictable usual panic. Didn't we use up the game in hand yesterday ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 13:07:05 GMT
Possible deflection on second goal? More likely that someone filled the keeper's boots with lead. Very poor from him again. Time to thank him for his efforts and send him on his way.
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Post by simonj on Nov 25, 2015 13:26:26 GMT
Possible deflection on second goal? More likely that someone filled the keeper's boots with lead. Very poor from him again. Time to thank him for his efforts and send him on his way.
The first goal couldn't have been hit less hard either, he may have felt it was going to be intercepted but he didn't move. 2nd was a decent hit but really that should have been saved near post. Mildenhall for me.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 25, 2015 14:19:21 GMT
I think that you may well have something there steve.
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Post by torchy on Nov 25, 2015 15:55:32 GMT
Once again a great report Steve. I feel DC is losing the plot. Appears to criticise everyone except taking a good look at himself. Tactics, what do they do on the training pitch? Free kicks, corners, long high ball to small strikers, Lee Brown and whoever is playing left wing getting in each other's way etc etc.. Would someone please let the fans know who is in charge of recruitment. Fed up with being told what a great manager he is, if Martin Allen had been manager last year we would have walked the Conference.
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Post by billyocean on Nov 25, 2015 16:42:35 GMT
Good write up Steve. Agree on many of the points, particularly Taylor who looked head and shoulders above the rest last night and Easter who can't do anything unless the ball is at his feet and also blew a very good chance. Thought Lines was worth a little more as he was one of the few players who played a decent ball forward rather than sideways, backwards or only 5 yards. Can't understand not starting Leadbitter either, or leaving it so late to bring him on. He immediately got Lee booked with his pace and is always a threat when I watch him live. Amusing that the shortened URL for this thread is gasheads.org/thread/4230/tactically-good
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Post by pirate49 on Nov 25, 2015 16:56:58 GMT
More likely that someone filled the keeper's boots with lead. Very poor from him again. Time to thank him for his efforts and send him on his way.
The first goal couldn't have been hit less hard either, he may have felt it was going to be intercepted but he didn't move. 2nd was a decent hit but really that should have been saved near post. Mildenhall for me.
My instinctive response to the first goal, watching from the uncovered Uplands Terrace, was that he made a misjudgement and thought that the shot was going wide.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Nov 25, 2015 16:58:48 GMT
But four points off the play offs with a game in hand. Equally, it's no desperate situation either. Contrary to the predictable usual panic. Didn't we use up the game in hand yesterday ? Nope, everyone else played. The original postponed game Vs Wycombe (now next Tuesday night) is our game in hand.
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 25, 2015 18:05:11 GMT
Could be much, much worse We could support Yeovil Town ...Championship side to on the verge of the Conference/National league in two seasons Let us get real we have made progress in the past 12 months
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 25, 2015 20:39:47 GMT
Didn't we use up the game in hand yesterday ? Nope, everyone else played. The original postponed game Vs Wycombe (now next Tuesday night) is our game in hand. Thanks dude. I've not really been with it these past few weeks
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 25, 2015 22:52:25 GMT
Could be much, much worse We could support Yeovil Town ...Championship side to on the verge of the Conference/National league in two seasons Let us get real we have made progress in the past 12 months Harry...much respect...I'm not saying we haven't made progress in last 12 months. Far from it. I've been very supportive of our ongoing progression. I accept that point wholeheartedly.. But.. I wouldn't sacrifice a jump into Championship for a depth charge in lower divisions as you so analogise Yeovile... ... then again, I wouldn't support Yeovile. It's like a lower form of life, but that's just my opinion!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 25, 2015 22:53:35 GMT
Nope, everyone else played. The original postponed game Vs Wycombe (now next Tuesday night) is our game in hand. Thanks dude. I've not really been with it these past few weeks Are you Nicholls in disguise?
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Post by mentors on Nov 25, 2015 22:58:17 GMT
That's because Clarke put him on the left wing, maybe he forgot that the player crosses with his right foot? In every single game there are simple basics that Clarke fails to get right. That's because he's the end of a bell
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