brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Jul 15, 2015 16:41:15 GMT
It was reported in the local media, both the press and TV. They also reported about a fictitious car park attendant at Bristol Zoo. Ask GD next time you see him, he will answer the question truthfully. Did they? I've never read that, are you quite certain that you're right. As regards GD (I assume that we're both talking about our former chairman Geoff Dunford here), I doubt that he would ever speak to me, I'm only a terrace fan you see. Although, hang on . . . it's not you is it? Am I really speaking to GD. If you can confirm then I will happily withdraw.
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Jul 15, 2015 16:44:25 GMT
It was reported in the local media, both the press and TV. They also reported about a fictitious car park attendant at Bristol Zoo. Ask GD next time you see him, he will answer the question truthfully. edit: or Barry Bradshaw but stand back a little as he likes to get into your face. You're clearly well connected, whoever you are. These are BIG names to the likes of me.
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Post by LJG on Jul 16, 2015 20:33:21 GMT
One point for us to take on board is how long this appeals saga could go on for? Say we appeal and win; what's stopping Sainsbury's appealing that decision? Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a limit to the number of appeals possible (happy to stand corrected if someone knows the real situation in this regard). This is unhealthy for the club, for the fans, for everyone connected to BRFC. How long would all this go on for? Even if we win a potential appeal, as far as I'm concerned, that wouldn't be the end of this. In the meantime, we'd incur continuing costs. The rest you know... Antony You can only appeal a high court judgement to the Court of Appeal. You can only appeal a Court of Appeal judgement to the Supreme Court (used to be called the House of Lords). So if we appeal this decision only one more appeal can be made after that. To answer your question - that scenario would see it go on for about another six years.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 16, 2015 21:02:50 GMT
There were strong rumours last season that the present Oxford owner was interested in investing in the club and he's now managed to bring in Eastleigh 's owner as a sizable investor. Meanwhile NH blows millions on legal fees taking on a retailing giant with unlimited funds.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jul 16, 2015 21:05:30 GMT
One point for us to take on board is how long this appeals saga could go on for? Say we appeal and win; what's stopping Sainsbury's appealing that decision? Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a limit to the number of appeals possible (happy to stand corrected if someone knows the real situation in this regard). This is unhealthy for the club, for the fans, for everyone connected to BRFC. How long would all this go on for? Even if we win a potential appeal, as far as I'm concerned, that wouldn't be the end of this. In the meantime, we'd incur continuing costs. The rest you know... Antony You can only appeal a high court judgement to the Court of Appeal. You can only appeal a Court of Appeal judgement to the Supreme Court (used to be called the House of Lords). So if we appeal this decision only one more appeal can be made after that. To answer your question - that scenario would see it go on for about another six years. It won't go on for another six years because if these jokers are still here perusing this nonsense appeal there won't be a club.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 21:18:13 GMT
You can only appeal a high court judgement to the Court of Appeal. You can only appeal a Court of Appeal judgement to the Supreme Court (used to be called the House of Lords). So if we appeal this decision only one more appeal can be made after that. To answer your question - that scenario would see it go on for about another six years. It won't go on for another six years because if these jokers are still here perusing this nonsense appeal there won't be a club. Please do not disrespect the loyalty of Gasheads, there will always be a Bristol Rovers or very similar title that play in blue and white quarters, granted it may be on the downs if Higgs is allowed to carry on with his circus but there will always be Gas.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 17, 2015 11:57:18 GMT
There were strong rumours last season that the present Oxford owner was interested in investing in the club and he's now managed to bring in Eastleigh 's owner as a sizable investor. Meanwhile NH blows millions on legal fees taking on a retailing giant with unlimited funds. This is 100% true and Nick Higgs said he was astonished it got out as there had been a contract in place to keep it out of the public domain. The club has plenty of leaks and the leak it came from made sure it got out. Nick Highs even talked about it on TV but without naming Darrel Eaves. Believ it or not, it is true
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Post by toteend on Jul 18, 2015 19:41:24 GMT
Eastleighs owner is an Oxford fan, but can only hold a stake of up to 10% in another club. He has invested a million 'to help them succeed'. He maintains that he is now dedicated to Eastleigh.
Two directors have denied the story of the Oxford geezer, but you pays yer money and takes yer choice.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jul 20, 2015 12:01:43 GMT
Looks like Carlisle United are also saying "No acceptable offer received". Carlisle Rebuff Investment (BBC Sport, Friday 17th July)Carlisle United say plans to take on investment worth £1.26m from a group of potential financiers were ended after "concerns over financial commitment". However businessman Andrew Lapping, who led the group's bid, says the claims by the Cumbrians are "bizarre, grossly unprofessional and simply libellous". The club's statement states that funds pledged in paperwork were not backed up by due diligence investigations. They also said specific requests for financial evidence were not met. In three points set out by chairman Andrew Jenkins, the statement maintains there was a failure to agree specific criteria set by the football club's lawyers, and also says there were "serious reservations over the business practices employed by Mr Lapping and/or associates with his group." Lapping's statement said in response: "For the last 12 months of my life I've worked diligently to put a plan in place which would provide initial financial investment for Carlisle United and a long-term structure and strategy to ensure the club was well-placed to pursue future success. "It's clear they don't want me involved. I don't have a problem with that - but I do have a problem in having my integrity and motives questioned." The interest from Lapping and his associates was initially made public early in the year, although that appeared to cool when it was revealed a mystery "billionaire" had expressed an interest. In addition to the news on termination of investments plans, Carlisle also revealed the club will undergo an 'internal restructure', including the appointment of a new chairman and managing director to replace Jenkins and current MD John Nixon.
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addyap
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Post by addyap on Aug 6, 2015 8:50:37 GMT
One point for us to take on board is how long this appeals saga could go on for? Say we appeal and win; what's stopping Sainsbury's appealing that decision? Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a limit to the number of appeals possible (happy to stand corrected if someone knows the real situation in this regard). This is unhealthy for the club, for the fans, for everyone connected to BRFC. How long would all this go on for? Even if we win a potential appeal, as far as I'm concerned, that wouldn't be the end of this. In the meantime, we'd incur continuing costs. The rest you know... Antony Hi guys, Just want to put this right and pass on the information. The Appeals Court case will be heard in front of 3 judges who will deliberate and make a decision based on a vote system with the majority decision winning. Should either party decide to appeal that decision, then a panel of 7 judges will preside over the case at the subsequent and ultimate court level in contractual disputes. That decision will be final with no further appeal possible for either party. Antony
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Post by Smithy Gas on Aug 6, 2015 9:50:20 GMT
One point for us to take on board is how long this appeals saga could go on for? Say we appeal and win; what's stopping Sainsbury's appealing that decision? Unless I'm mistaken, there isn't a limit to the number of appeals possible (happy to stand corrected if someone knows the real situation in this regard). This is unhealthy for the club, for the fans, for everyone connected to BRFC. How long would all this go on for? Even if we win a potential appeal, as far as I'm concerned, that wouldn't be the end of this. In the meantime, we'd incur continuing costs. The rest you know... Antony Hi guys, Just want to put this right and pass on the information. The Appeals Court case will be heard in front of 3 judges who will deliberate and make a decision based on a vote system with the majority decision winning. Should either party decide to appeal that decision, then a panel of 7 judges will preside over the case at the subsequent and ultimate court level in contractual disputes. That decision will be final with no further appeal possible for either party. Antony Now, how easy would that have been for someone to put on the fishal site? Thanks for the info.
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Post by badbloodash on Aug 6, 2015 10:47:39 GMT
1. I think we should appeal. Read through the judges notes 2. How many foreigners have bought clubs here and made the successful. Very few there has been as many disasters as there have successes I don't really get the who foreign owner moaning. There are two types of owner; good and bad. George Reynolds, Stuart Lovering, John Batchelor, Peter Risdale, Craig Whyte & Alex Hamilton were all British... Steady on Craig White did an absolute fantastic job in a very short space of time
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Post by Rex on Aug 6, 2015 11:03:10 GMT
I don't really get the who foreign owner moaning. There are two types of owner; good and bad. George Reynolds, Stuart Lovering, John Batchelor, Peter Risdale, Craig Whyte & Alex Hamilton were all British... Steady on Craig White did an absolute fantastic job in a very short space of time
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Post by lympstonegas on Aug 6, 2015 13:16:16 GMT
Steady on Craig White did an absolute fantastic job in a very short space of time Love that version and could hear that echoing around the empty spaces of the wind torn Mem - powerful and menacing
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Post by Igitur on Aug 6, 2015 13:32:10 GMT
Sometimes a decision is overturned and then overturned again.
Surely if it goes from 1 to 3 to 7, then next in sequence is 15, perhaps we could play the judges at rugby.
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Post by Igitur on Aug 6, 2015 13:38:14 GMT
They also reported about a fictitious car park attendant at Bristol Zoo. Ask GD next time you see him, he will answer the question truthfully. Did they? I've never read that, are you quite certain that you're right. As regards GD (I assume that we're both talking about our former chairman Geoff Dunford here), I doubt that he would ever speak to me, I'm only a terrace fan you see. Although, hang on . . . it's not you is it? Am I really speaking to GD. If you can confirm then I will happily withdraw. This site is interesting for debunking stories (or does it?):
www.snopes.com/crime/clever/carpark.asp
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Aug 6, 2015 14:35:46 GMT
Did they? I've never read that, are you quite certain that you're right. As regards GD (I assume that we're both talking about our former chairman Geoff Dunford here), I doubt that he would ever speak to me, I'm only a terrace fan you see. Although, hang on . . . it's not you is it? Am I really speaking to GD. If you can confirm then I will happily withdraw. This site is interesting for debunking stories (or does it?):
www.snopes.com/crime/clever/carpark.asp
I love the way that £'s have been converted to $'s in one of the posts, presumably for our international readers of ''urban myths.'' Or do you think that it is a precursor to a full-blown bid, by the back door of course.
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addyap
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Post by addyap on Aug 7, 2015 9:12:36 GMT
Sometimes a decision is overturned and then overturned again. Surely if it goes from 1 to 3 to 7, then next in sequence is 15, perhaps we could play the judges at rugby. No, that's the point. The system means that the initial decision made by one judge is now in the hands of the Appeals Court, presided over by 3 judges. If either party doesn't accept the decision of the Appeals Court, then it goes to the "final possible" court where a panel of 7 judges deliberate. Either Sainsbury's or Rovers would once again have to seek permission to take it to that level as Rovers had to do in order to take it to the Appeals Court. There are no other options thereafter.
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Post by alwaysgas on Aug 7, 2015 9:30:29 GMT
Sometimes a decision is overturned and then overturned again. Surely if it goes from 1 to 3 to 7, then next in sequence is 15, perhaps we could play the judges at rugby. No, that's the point. The system means that the initial decision made by one judge is now in the hands of the Appeals Court, presided over by 3 judges. If either party doesn't accept the decision of the Appeals Court, then it goes to the "final possible" court where a panel of 7 judges deliberate. Either Sainsbury's or Rovers would once again have to seek permission to take it to that level as Rovers had to do in order to take it to the Appeals Court. There are no other options thereafter. Can then go to the European court depending on what the challenge covers. Contracting in good faith may well be covered by the EC.
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Post by addyap on Aug 7, 2015 9:33:52 GMT
No, that's the point. The system means that the initial decision made by one judge is now in the hands of the Appeals Court, presided over by 3 judges. If either party doesn't accept the decision of the Appeals Court, then it goes to the "final possible" court where a panel of 7 judges deliberate. Either Sainsbury's or Rovers would once again have to seek permission to take it to that level as Rovers had to do in order to take it to the Appeals Court. There are no other options thereafter. Can then go to the European court depending on what the challenge covers. Contracting in good faith may well be covered by the EC. Don't think it is in this kind of affair, based on the interpretation of a private agreement between two parties under UK law.
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