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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 10:43:27 GMT
Hmm, not convinced. If that's the only thing that was achieved it was pretty pointless. I mean now we have a third party selling stuff (not a dig at all). The Club when it comes to this side of things is so behind it's astonishing. The longer they let Barry look after it the more amateur it'll become. We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very well Microwave business.
The reason the shop did well this year is down to the fact Rovers did well. You've got to remember this is the man that is flogging sterling silver business card holders in 199 for £60. When I say flogging I mean they haven't sold one.
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Post by Lazza on Jun 11, 2015 11:00:40 GMT
You are correct, the group no longer meets up. Also, one member did take the initiative to go it alone: He now sells stuff on eBay: m.ebay.co.uk/itm/251971160246?nav=SEARCHHe said that he would put profit towards sponsoring a player next season, so the club haven't totally lost out. That is disappointing news. In itself, I am sure we could all tolerate the demise of a consultation on t-shirts and key-rings, but I really REALLY hope that it is not indicative of a broader trend to forget all of the promises made about inclusion and communication made in the wake of relegation in 2013-14. The sooner the realisation is there that our support is a major asset and is willing to contribute - the better the club will be. Cue the response...... Response? The only thing to say that is so long as the same people are running the club exactly the same mistakes will be made. History tells us this in no uncertain way, it's not as though we are even guessing. Back to the Einstein insanity quotation so long as Higgs, Boycie & Watola are involved. What was the point of asking the fans to get involved and ask what they want and then just plain ignore them? These fans gave of their valued time and then shown great disrespect with an elderly director telling them he's "down with the kidz" and knows exactly what they want and what will sell. It's plain crazy when you think about it really. Will they ever learn? NO!!
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Post by Lazza on Jun 11, 2015 11:06:15 GMT
For goodness sake, it isn't rocket science. Spend half a day looking at what other clubs are selling, buy a load of stock, get it into both shops, (the tat that FC shops sell is as cheap as chips to buy, the risk in having the stock is virtually zero) sort out access to PL on match days, do some direct marketing and e-campaigns. There are 6th form students who could be doing a better job than we are managing.
For the board spies and sycophants, please tell Barry, as Bernie Ecclestone likes to say, 'either p!ss or get off of the pot'. Deal with it or employ someone who can! BG, I'd go further and wager that there are primary school kids that could do a better job.
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Post by Blue Mist on Jun 11, 2015 11:21:51 GMT
Hmm, not convinced. If that's the only thing that was achieved it was pretty pointless. I mean now we have a third party selling stuff (not a dig at all). The Club when it comes to this side of things is so behind it's astonishing. The longer they let Barry look after it the more amateur it'll become. We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very wellThis isn't a pop at you but can I ask how you know this, have you seen the numbers? What does very well actually mean? Why stop at very well, It has the potential to do incredibly well if we start selling 21st Century memorabilia. With the clubs break even point being very public you would expect every effort to exploit every opportunity and increase the profit of the club shop.
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Post by Rod1883 on Jun 11, 2015 12:08:49 GMT
Hmm, not convinced. If that's the only thing that was achieved it was pretty pointless. I mean now we have a third party selling stuff (not a dig at all). The Club when it comes to this side of things is so behind it's astonishing. The longer they let Barry look after it the more amateur it'll become. We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very wellI also would be interested to see the numbers to prove that the shop does well. As I said above, my and my family's experience is that the shop rarely has stock available on line so the potential is great, the actual is far short of what could be achieved.
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Post by poguemahone on Jun 11, 2015 12:28:52 GMT
We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very wellThis isn't a pop at you but can I ask how you know this, have you seen the numbers? What does very well actually mean? Why stop at very well, It has the potential to do incredibly well if we start selling 21st Century memorabilia. With the clubs break even point being very public you would expect every effort to exploit every opportunity and increase the profit of the club shop. I only know what I've been told. Personally I think the club shop could do so much better. I wanted the panel to be allocated a budget (£1000 was suggested) with a target to reach by season end. I even offered to personally underwrite any loss that may have arisen (no way would we have made a loss). This was rejected by the club. We had very little influence tbh. The club made cuts in staff after losing league status, I'm not sure whether they will now look to increase numbers to move forward. Barry has my number if he needs it.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 11, 2015 20:57:07 GMT
This isn't a pop at you but can I ask how you know this, have you seen the numbers? What does very well actually mean? Why stop at very well, It has the potential to do incredibly well if we start selling 21st Century memorabilia. With the clubs break even point being very public you would expect every effort to exploit every opportunity and increase the profit of the club shop. I only know what I've been told. Personally I think the club shop could do so much better. I wanted the panel to be allocated a budget (£1000 was suggested) with a target to reach by season end. I even offered to personally underwrite any loss that may have arisen (no way would we have made a loss). This was rejected by the club. We had very little influence tbh. The club made cuts in staff after losing league status, I'm not sure whether they will now look to increase numbers to move forward. Barry has my number if he needs it. We must be a very unique club, turning down the opportunity to make use of a group of willing and enthusiastic fans who want to improve the type of merchandise available to make it more attractive to buy and therefore bring in more money for the club.....you really couldn't make this up could you ? No wonder we've yet again been ignored by the club by not being given anymore opportunities to have Q&A sessions despite the huge numbers we've continued to turn up with at home and away games.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 21:20:19 GMT
It's not funny just go on e-bay and tap Bristol rovers, look at the stuff that is for sale. The swords shirts being one thing. The other day I posted about the picture of Eastville I have, and people commented (and PM'd me about it). Why have the club never spoke to the artist (or the other way round). It would be simple to deal with these people arrange a price (no stock) and have a internet shop. Rovers take a percentage for hosting the item in it's shop and everybody is happy.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 11, 2015 21:43:07 GMT
It's not funny just go on e-bay and tap Bristol rovers, look at the stuff that is for sale. The swords shirts being one thing. The other day I posted about the picture of Eastville I have, and people commented (and PM'd me about it). Why have the club never spoke to the artist (or the other way round). It would be simple to deal with these people arrange a price (no stock) and have a internet shop. Rovers take a percentage for hosting the item in it's shop and everybody is happy. I agree, it's a disgrace, it appears it's either too hard or those managing it can't be bothered or won't listen to alternative idea's
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Post by hillfieldsboy55 on Jun 12, 2015 5:28:06 GMT
As I said before who would run Their club shop on a normal match day when only less than half the crowd can gain entrance to the club shop before the game .
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jun 12, 2015 6:49:15 GMT
We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very wellI also would be interested to see the numbers to prove that the shop does well. As I said above, my and my family's experience is that the shop rarely has stock available on line so the potential is great, the actual is far short of what could be achieved.
I have run my own shop for 26 years and i can assure you looking at the way that shop & the supporters shop is run it is NOT well Run First thing they need to get right is to stock what the customer wants - Failed Fail to respond to customer requirements Fail to keep up with current trends i could go on
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Post by poguemahone on Jun 12, 2015 11:26:27 GMT
I also would be interested to see the numbers to prove that the shop does well. As I said above, my and my family's experience is that the shop rarely has stock available on line so the potential is great, the actual is far short of what could be achieved.
I have run my own shop for 26 years and i can assure you looking at the way that shop & the supporters shop is run it is NOT well Run First thing they need to get right is to stock what the customer wants - Failed Fail to respond to customer requirements Fail to keep up with current trends i could go on Believe me, all the above points were raised right from the start. In the comments above I was only voicing what the club said to us. It's certainly not my own opinion. The panel had some reallytalented and committed members, but we couldn't make any progress. The club run the commercial dept. as they see fit, which they are entitled to. My enthusiam dwindled as we were constantly thwarted in our efforts. There is no shortage of independent outlets fulfilling a demand that the club do not recognise, ie, my own Crossed Swords clothing and the cult hero's stuff. I never intended to go it alone but just had to prove to myself there is a market for different merchandise to that offered by the official outlets. I think the shop at 199, is solely run by the supporters club and can stock whatever they choose. I'd love to know how other clubs of our standing do commercially. To be honest I don't see anything is about to change.
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Post by LJG on Jun 12, 2015 12:40:15 GMT
Remember when that chap was doing those pirate T Shirts with the cartoon of the guy holding the ball and offered the profits to the club and instead of accepting they banned him from producing them for copyright infringement?
It's like the place is run by school girls who don't want anyone else playing with THEIR dolls house.
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Post by Thatslife on Jun 12, 2015 15:38:17 GMT
I notice Manchester U have started to do club replica kit in plus sizes... walk around the Mem on Match day and plenty of Big blokes would love to own a Rovers shirt in plus sizes Shame rovers don't do any This would be a good start. The food at Kidderminster was excellent.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jun 12, 2015 18:45:09 GMT
I have run my own shop for 26 years and i can assure you looking at the way that shop & the supporters shop is run it is NOT well Run First thing they need to get right is to stock what the customer wants - Failed Fail to respond to customer requirements Fail to keep up with current trends i could go on Believe me, all the above points were raised right from the start. In the comments above I was only voicing what the club said to us. It's certainly not my own opinion. The panel had some reallytalented and committed members, but we couldn't make any progress. The club run the commercial dept. as they see fit, which they are entitled to. My enthusiam dwindled as we were constantly thwarted in our efforts. There is no shortage of independent outlets fulfilling a demand that the club do not recognise, ie, my own Crossed Swords clothing and the cult hero's stuff. I never intended to go it alone but just had to prove to myself there is a market for different merchandise to that offered by the official outlets. I think the shop at 199, is solely run by the supporters club and can stock whatever they choose. I'd love to know how other clubs of our standing do commercially. To be honest I don't see anything is about to change. I think you've been very diplomatic with your replies but your experience of the club and the commercial part of it mirrors what others have also had the misfortune to experience. Well thank you for trying and good luck with your Cross Swords clothing.
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Post by warmleygas on Jun 15, 2015 11:37:44 GMT
We did a few other bits but it was a slog. Barry is very successful in business, which you have to respect. The shop does very wellThis isn't a pop at you but can I ask how you know this, have you seen the numbers? What does very well actually mean? Why stop at very well, It has the potential to do incredibly well if we start selling 21st Century memorabilia. With the clubs break even point being very public you would expect every effort to exploit every opportunity and increase the profit of the club shop. I reckon very well just means sales are up on last year. That doesn't mean anything really as I'm sure potential sales could be a three or four fold increase if as everyone says they sold stuff that people wanted. Most of the replica kits and training gear have been out of stock for a large chunk of the season, seems they order a quantity of each item but do not reorder any of it, I have been looking at one particular item checking back every week or so, it never came back in stock.
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