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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 10:54:39 GMT
The thing about doing a match report after every game and in that report marking the Manager is that it is going to differ greatly each game the same as each players mark is going to differ. Why I say about this is because using an example we play six games and win 5 out of the six playing the same way with the same formation and personnel but the last game is the one we lose. For this it would almost certainly be down to the players and the Managers mark would not be affected by his team selection and the only possible criticism could be his substitutions and the timing of them. Now lets use the DC example of the last 4 games where we have won 3 and drew the last 1 but the difference is that we have seen changes in the team in probably all those games but the most drastic changes were for the last game which we drew where he changed the formation,the personnel and the positions in which we played the personnel. IMO which is what I give in my reports the changes did not work at all and even I knew how the opposition would play because I read a very good after match report from the Woking Manager after their defeat there. A team in our position should have the confidence in the way we play to beat mediocre teams without constantly changing and Dover were without doubt a pretty mediocre team who played one way (hoofball) and when we ran at them on the rare occasions with the ball at our feet we looked capable of murdering them. We just don't concentrate on our own game enough and give poor opposition the same chance of taking a point off us as good opposition because we set up to win by the odd goal and in doing that there is always the chance you will slip up once. I personally feel we have had our fair share of luck this season in that setting up the way we do it is surprising that we haven't lost more games. That said we do generally have a sound defence which could be down to the fact that other than right back he rarely tinkers with it! Tinkering with the team all of the time results in a lack of understanding and that is particularly evident with our forwards but also with the Match fitness of other players. Balanta, Gosling, Clarke, Blissett,Dawson and most of the loanees we have had (who rarely got a game) are bound to be short of Match practice which can only be obtained by having a run of games or a fair chance to impress. I think sometimes DC is too clever for his own good and this was my opinion last season as well for the last eight games. If I had to give him a mark based on the entire season so far it would be an 8 because being where we are was beyond a lot of peoples dreams after the first 5 games and a lot of that is down to the Managers signings and the team spirit which he has built. I just wish he would get a settled team and give all players the chance to have a run of games to show what they can do. Lets face it After the past few chaotic years its a relief that we have a settled squad and a manager who is producing a reasonably successful season
However I still stand by the fact that I believe he has put together a better squad (based upon a league 2 perhaps 1 defence) than our results indicate. In that context we should be promoted now. If I am wrong, and there is a very good chance, obviously, that I am then there are only two conclusions 1. DC does not believe the squad is as strong as I do and feels the need to overly react to the relative strengths of the opposition on a game to game basis, thus continuously tinkering with the set up and tactics ( I get scouting and knowing the opposition, but his constant changing of formation and tactics is much more than that) 2. He is a manager who inherently micro manages to the nth degree, is very conservative and plays the percentages.
Trouble is, for those that witnessed that first half at home to Barnet when we went out and blew them away, its hard to square the circle.
Perhaps there is a third conclusion.
He is still learning.
I remember Ian Holloway and the first year was not all milk and honey By year three we were playing some of the most exciting football it has ever been my privilege to witness as a Rovers fan.
Past Dover angry now, and will be there on Saturday, just as wound up.
FFS, when will I grow up
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Post by brizzle on Apr 20, 2015 12:11:17 GMT
Have we blown it? The manager is quoted today as saying . . .
That's one straw to grasp at I suppose.
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 20, 2015 13:35:15 GMT
Oldie, Some great points there.
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Post by chelt_gas on Apr 20, 2015 13:51:01 GMT
DC is not mature enough as a manager to handle the club in important games. What was he thinking of. I'd be hauling him in the boardroom given his stupid idiotic team selection against part time Dover.
Let's hope he learns for next season and gets to play the real manager in league 2.
Dreadful tactics.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 14:10:38 GMT
Am I missing something? He picked the same team as normal but pushed Brown up to accommodate an extra striker in an effort to score more goals.
It didn't really work, we had three isolated forwards instead of two. Even so, we nearly got the win apart from a dodgy equaliser that should have been prevented and then disallowed.
Why does any of that make him immature?
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 20, 2015 14:17:37 GMT
Am I missing something? He picked the same team as normal but pushed Brown up to accommodate an extra striker in an effort to score more goals. It didn't really work, we had three isolated forwards instead of two. Even so, we nearly got the win apart from a dodgy equaliser that should have been prevented and then disallowed. Why does any of that make him immature? Stop talking sense, mate.
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Post by Richard on Apr 20, 2015 14:46:07 GMT
Am I missing something? He picked the same team as normal but pushed Brown up to accommodate an extra striker in an effort to score more goals. It didn't really work, we had three isolated forwards instead of two. Even so, we nearly got the win apart from a dodgy equaliser that should have been prevented and then disallowed. Why does any of that make him immature? It wasn't the same team though was it? I wasn't there but from the line up it looked like it was a complete change in formation from 4-4-2 to something like 5-2-3? I really don't understand why he didn't simply keep the same team that walked to a victory against Southport or even the same one that extremely convincingly beat Kidderminster. Where has that formation come from?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 14:51:09 GMT
Oldie, Some great points there. Its as a rare as a consistent formation and tactic from Darryl?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 14:52:28 GMT
I was there and it was the same team with Brown pushing on to compensate for the missing midfielder because we had three up front.
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 20, 2015 15:28:14 GMT
Astafievs, Nothing worked about Saturdays formation/performance. Taylor and Ellis will never have a good partnership, Blissett was wide right first half and with no width whatsoever we were playing more to hold Dover rather than attack ourselves. With Dawson no longer available surely the time is right to start Baggio,if not why on earth did we sign him? Blissett and Ellis should start up front with Taylor on the bench.
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Post by dagnogo on Apr 20, 2015 15:32:49 GMT
With Dawson no longer available surely the time is right to start Baggio,if not why on earth did we sign him? If Darrell's had The Divine Ponytail on the books and isn't playing him, he should be bloody sacked
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 15:37:07 GMT
I never said it worked, I'm saying it wasn't the drastic change it is being made out to be.
I don't think Ballbags will start on Saturday. He was brought in as cover and Gosling is fit, although I'd be very surprised if he started too.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 20, 2015 16:04:01 GMT
Astafievs, Nothing worked about Saturdays formation/performance. Taylor and Ellis will never have a good partnership, Blissett was wide right first half and with no width whatsoever we were playing more to hold Dover rather than attack ourselves. With Dawson no longer available surely the time is right to start Baggio,if not why on earth did we sign him? Blissett and Ellis should start up front with Taylor on the bench. Bell Baggie was brought in as a bod, DC said he wanted as many players available as possible hence recalls for Lucas and Greenslade. He might stary Saturday, it may be Gosling or we might go three at the back. Maybe Sinclair will magically be fit and start on the right. Who knows
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Post by brisgas123 on Apr 20, 2015 16:28:46 GMT
Leadbitter can do a job on the right. And in response to the OP, no WE haven't blown it, the terrible ref has! Such a blatant push on Puddy. Also their player should have seen a straight red in the first half.
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Post by brisgas123 on Apr 20, 2015 16:53:15 GMT
Me old man is the most depressing f*** sometimes. On Saturday he was saying that we've got no chance in the playoffs and Forest green will tear us apart 4-0 both legs. He believes all this just because of the loss of Dawson. But after we won 3-1,5-1,3-0 and 2-0, he thought we were going to win it (the title) for sure!
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Post by harrybuckle on Apr 20, 2015 17:17:20 GMT
I would bring in Mildenhall, Sinclair and Easter if they are fit ...just the motivation we need
I would leave out Puddy, Monkhouse and Blissett
On the bench I would add Lucas
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Apr 20, 2015 17:49:11 GMT
I think we should go with a 4-1-3-2 on Saturday. Leadbitter & Brown at full back getting forward when they can, Lockyer sitting in front of Parkes & Macca, Mansell, Lines & Monkhouse playing as an attacking midfield trio pushing right up to support a front two of Harrison & Taylor. The pitch is in fantastic condition, play everything through Linesy and take some risks as this really is a game that we need to win because we have nothing to lose by drawing or losing. The fact that a point will wreck Barnets chances rather than a defeat is still a massive positive for us, they haven't played in front of a sell out home crowd this season, and all the hype of having the BT Sport cameras and pundits around will ramp up pressure on them.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 20, 2015 20:08:29 GMT
Astafievs, Nothing worked about Saturdays formation/performance. Taylor and Ellis will never have a good partnership, Blissett was wide right first half and with no width whatsoever we were playing more to hold Dover rather than attack ourselves. With Dawson no longer available surely the time is right to start Baggio,if not why on earth did we sign him? Blissett and Ellis should start up front with Taylor on the bench.That sure worked a treat against Kiddiminster didn't it, only Darrell will know why he didn't use the same set up on Saturday
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 20, 2015 20:21:27 GMT
I would bring in Mildenhall, Sinclair and Easter if they are fit ...just the motivation we need I would leave out Puddy, Monkhouse and Blissett On the bench I would add Lucas As much as I want him to play Sinclair hasn't played for ages and the way he plays the game would be blown out after 60 minutes, Easter clearly has an injury no one is letting on about and as Puddy was fouled on Saturday to concede the goal I don't see any reason to replace him ?
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 20, 2015 20:43:18 GMT
From the match highlights, it shows what an atrocious tackle it was on Tom Lockyer, a superb free kick by Chris to Nathan , an even better header across the goal to set up Ellis and a shove by the Dover player on Will. I wonder if the ref was unsighted for that part of it, saw Will catch it and then in his mind saw him drop it, don't think the linesman would have seen the foul as he couldn't see past the Dover player. There only appeared to be Mark challenging the ref's decision, clearly on the still photograph Mark is indicating with both hands to the ref that Will had been pushed. I thought bundling the ball and the keeper into the net had been outlawed in the 1950's !
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