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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 6, 2014 19:23:42 GMT
Does that make them harder to put the ball past? The size of their wallets? Of course not, it's this pathetic opinion that because they are part time, train twice a week and have day jobs, there are automatically a crap team and we should be just turning up and winning. Perhaps you'd care to explain why all the part time team are in the bottom half of the table and the full time reams in the top half? Using your logic there would be an equal mix right though the league. The fact Blisset jacked in his BG job and gave the impression he was thrilled with the offer we gave him suggests was far better far than working, as regards the other posting saying part timers were earning more than our players. |
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Post by brizzle on Dec 6, 2014 19:30:43 GMT
Of course not, it's this pathetic opinion that because they are part time, train twice a week and have day jobs, there are automatically a crap team and we should be just turning up and winning. Perhaps you'd care to explain why all the part time team are in the bottom half of the table and the full time reams in the top half? Using your logic there would be an equal mix right though the league. The fact Blisset jacked in his BG job and gave the impression he was thrilled with the offer we gave him suggests was far better far than working, as regards the other posting saying part timers were earning more than our players. I suppose that it depends on how much he was earning previously, and what we're now paying him. |
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Post by c13 on Dec 6, 2014 19:53:58 GMT
Yes, I sometimes don't know why people kept banging on and on about strikers and never mentioned a creative midfielder, which is the only type of player that we don't even REMOTELY have. We've had a bunch of half-baked strikers but our midfielders in terms of vision and building up play aren't even slightly "baked". Had we someone in the center with the ability to create chances and supply offensive play, maybe Brunt and Jamie White wouldn't even had to leave, they'd have like 15-20 goals each.
So is it the strikers or midfielders - you confuse me! Um, I think I made it pretty clear that it's the midfielders.
Decent (or good) att. midfield + Medium-par attack >>>>> No att. midfield + Any sort of attack
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 6, 2014 21:00:49 GMT
With Welling having suspensions and Rovers loading up on strikers then that is a poor return. Teams like this should be put to the sword straight away.
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Post by Brockworth Gas on Dec 6, 2014 21:08:13 GMT
Does that make them harder to put the ball past? The size of their wallets? Of course not, it's this pathetic opinion that because they are part time, train twice a week and have day jobs, there are automatically a crap team and we should be just turning up and winning. I don't think we are entitled to rock up and beat any team in this league just because of who we are or just because they are part time. However I genuinely expect us to have either a little more quality (wage bill....) or greater fitness and sometimes even both. Is that too much to expect? A player doing 40 hours in an office should not be able to match one of ours for fitness - and this should give us a big advantage every time. |
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Post by PeterHooper57 on Dec 6, 2014 21:35:47 GMT
just got back from Park View Road, great day out as always, we were by far the better side; only, problem is no decent balls into the box from either side, equals scraps for the forwards, who would not have scored if they played until mid-night. Never mind upwards and onwards. The new goalkeeper made a fantastic save low down to his right in the first half, looks like a great signing. utg
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 21:36:50 GMT
We have now racked up 35 points from the last 18 league games.You can dress it up or strip it back any way you choose but a continuation of nigh on 2 points per game will be good enough for a play off place as a minimum.If we were sitting in Barnets position would we be thinking were home and hosed as champions? Nope,still all to play for in my view and we should all take note of that well known financial disclaimer - Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:03:16 GMT
Welling had a 10th of our last home gate without our away following, surely like Alfreton that suggests their wage bill is less than a quarter of ours, it's shocking we can't manage one goal against teams made up of postman & builders etc. so fleetwood towns wage bill is half ours then? is that right? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:16:00 GMT
Of course not, it's this pathetic opinion that because they are part time, train twice a week and have day jobs, there are automatically a crap team and we should be just turning up and winning. Perhaps you'd care to explain why all the part time team are in the bottom half of the table and the full time reams in the top half? Using your logic there would be an equal mix right though the league. The fact Blisset jacked in his BG job and gave the impression he was thrilled with the offer we gave him suggests was far better far than working, as regards the other posting saying part timers were earning more than our players. woking are part time |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:32:40 GMT
We have now racked up 35 points from the last 18 league games.You can dress it up or strip it back any way you choose but a continuation of nigh on 2 points per game will be good enough for a play off place as a minimum.If we were sitting in Barnets position would we be thinking were home and hosed as champions? Nope,still all to play for in my view and we should all take note of that well known financial disclaimer - Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Yep, absolutely. The away draws aren't so bad so long as the home wins keep coming. Not beating Welling IS disappointing but then, they've only lost once at home all season. Tough little side though without any stardust to set them apart from the other scrappers. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 6, 2014 22:54:00 GMT
Welling had a 10th of our last home gate without our away following, surely like Alfreton that suggests their wage bill is less than a quarter of ours, it's shocking we can't manage one goal against teams made up of postman & builders etc. so fleetwood towns wage bill is half ours then? is that right? Fleetwood aren't a Conference side, better examples would have been Eastleigh or FGR, however Welling or Alfreton don't seem to have rich benefactors pumping millions into them. If they did I assume there wouldn't need to be part timers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:23:48 GMT
so fleetwood towns wage bill is half ours then? is that right? Fleetwood aren't a Conference side, better examples would have been Eastleigh or FGR, however Welling or Alfreton don't seem to have rich benefactors pumping millions into them. If they did I assume there wouldn't need to be part timers. every team that has won the conference has dropped points v part time teams including luton,,if someone says we should be beating welling or alfreton as there struggling i get that but to constantly bring up the part time thing is daft when half the league is part time but still competitive |
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Post by swissgas on Dec 6, 2014 23:37:36 GMT
Fleetwood aren't a Conference side, better examples would have been Eastleigh or FGR, however Welling or Alfreton don't seem to have rich benefactors pumping millions into them. If they did I assume there wouldn't need to be part timers. every team that has won the conference has dropped points v part time teams including luton,,if someone says we should be beating welling or alfreton as there struggling i get that but to constantly bring up the part time thing is daft when half the league is part time but still competitive But there must be an advantage to being full time otherwise all clubs in the Conference would go part time wouldn't they ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:51:19 GMT
every team that has won the conference has dropped points v part time teams including luton,,if someone says we should be beating welling or alfreton as there struggling i get that but to constantly bring up the part time thing is daft when half the league is part time but still competitive But there must be an advantage to being full time otherwise all clubs in the Conference would go part time wouldn't they ? of course but the league is tight and every games a battle,,,we beat and lost to barnet both games were very fierce and competitive,,we beat and drew with welling both games were hard fought,,,if we want to catch barnet we need to nick wins at welling/alfreton because we have better players,i just feel to always drone on about part time is pointless as we sadly happen to be in a rare league where nearly half the teams happen to be part time |
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Post by alloutofgas on Dec 6, 2014 23:57:36 GMT
At this precise moment in time, I am mildly pissed. However, a point away from home is not disastrous. Important to follow it up with a home win. We are virtually two points per game ffs
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Post by swissgas on Dec 7, 2014 0:23:06 GMT
But there must be an advantage to being full time otherwise all clubs in the Conference would go part time wouldn't they ? of course but the league is tight and every games a battle,,,we beat and lost to barnet both games were very fierce and competitive,,we beat and drew with welling both games were hard fought,,,if we want to catch barnet we need to nick wins at welling/alfreton because we have better players,i just feel to always drone on about part time is pointless as we sadly happen to be in a rare league where nearly half the teams happen to be part time Yes I understand the argument that when the two teams get on the pitch it's a hard fought battle 11 v 11. We have a bigger income and a higher football profile than all the other clubs in this league so we should be able to sign better players and if we manage them properly we should, over 46 games, be able to win the majority of those battles against teams with inferior players. I guess the issue is about how big that "majority" is and whether it is good enough to win the league or at least get us in the play off's. If we don't get in the play off's is it because we didn't spend enough of our income, because we did spend enough but we didn't spend it wisely or because we did spend enough and spent it wisely but we didn't manage the players well enough ? In my view these are the key issues for Rovers and have been for many years. Talk about abuse of FFP rules or clubs with sugar daddies or bad luck with injuries or players not trying or bad choice of manager or the crowd getting on the players back or any of the other excuses are just red herrings. At the end of the day it all boils down to how we as a club manage our assets. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Dec 7, 2014 10:05:45 GMT
Your contradicting yourself with that. How's this then: stop being a self-righteous ********. Is that contradictory? Have edited to remove offensive term. People have differing opinions and arguments will get heated but can we kindly respect other Gasheads without getting abusive? Season of goodwill and all that! Thanks |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 7, 2014 10:09:56 GMT
I think being 2nd half way through season, most Rovers fans would've taken that.
There are teams with games in hand over us, but not many will win at Welling if they play the same way. We are always gonna find it difficult to play teams that are happy to keep the ball. I haven't seen a team yet to be frightened of, so we just have to be patient and the points will rack up.
What I like I Clarke gives his players a chance and he strengthens in the right places with credible alternatives so we are always going to have a chance of achieving success, it just didn't come to fruition yesterday.
On a separate note, who was the fella after the match calling some of the players over for a hug? They seemed to listen to him!?!
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 7, 2014 10:12:52 GMT
On a separate note, who was the fella after the match calling some of the players over for a hug? They seemed to listen to him!?! Yes, i wondered that too |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 7, 2014 10:51:46 GMT
How's this then: stop being a self-righteous ********. Is that contradictory? Have edited to remove offensive term. People have differing opinions and arguments will get heated but can we kindly respect other Gasheads without getting abusive? Season of goodwill and all that! Thanks Well, different things offend different people. You seem to think it's ok to say stuff like, '[if you don't agree with Westcountrygas...] "then we deserve to rot in this league for many years to come."' That's just so utterly stupid and self-righteous, that offends my sense of decent conversation. I asked if he could remove the constant ridiculous self-righteous moralising from his posts, and got a stupid, cop-out reply. If he's happy to non-debate on such a crappy level, I don't really see how calling him a name is beyond the purview of this implicit rhetorical domain. Of course, you should also feel free to moderate the forum however you wish. |
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