LJG
Peter Beadle
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 969 
|
Post by LJG on Jun 4, 2014 16:39:21 GMT
I said before Ward was appointed I'd like to see him Manage Rovers.
- Contacts at Chelsea and QPR.
- Managerial pedigree - QPR reserves, assistant at Lewes (Conf South winners at the time), assistant at Farnborough (Southern Lge Prem winners and Conf South Play off runners up during his time).
- Club legend.
I wrote to him and Higgs at the time asking them to get in touch with each other.
I got laughed at at the time. I wonder if those same users still think it's funny now Clarke is the answer with less experience and less success.
|
|
mjhgas
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 277
|
Post by mjhgas on Jun 4, 2014 16:42:22 GMT
What a great player he was! Bit of a swagger and style.
Good shout!
|
|
Gashead
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 260
|
Post by Gashead on Jun 4, 2014 16:43:52 GMT
I said before Ward was appointed I'd like to see him Manage Rovers. - Contacts at Chelsea and QPR. - Managerial pedigree - QPR reserves, assistant at Lewes (Conf South winners at the time), assistant at Farnborough (Southern Lge Prem winners and Conf South Play off runners up during his time). - Club legend. I wrote to him and Higgs at the time asking them to get in touch with each other. I got laughed at at the time. I wonder if those same users still think it's funny now Clarke is the answer with less experience and less success. How does Clarke have less experience when he's actually managed, and how does he have less success when he has managed a team to promotion from Conference South? Question is, had he not played for Rovers would you have recommended him? And on what basis? |
|
pirate
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 223
|
Post by pirate on Jun 4, 2014 17:20:30 GMT
Not sure he'd want to come here in all honesty. Decent shout though should DC struggle.
|
|
|
|
Post by PessimistGas on Jun 4, 2014 17:29:40 GMT
He was brilliant (before he had his hair cut). notworthy
|
|
|
|
Post by Gas Since 1957 on Jun 4, 2014 17:35:57 GMT
I think we should see how Darrell Clarke does over the new season before deciding he's "not experienced enough" "is a write-off" etc. We've tried the big-name managers - Mark McGhee, those who have been successful in League 2 with small clubs - Paul Buckle, a blast from the past - John Ward and none of them have worked. Yet, at the time they were appointed, we all thought they would be brilliant managers.
Darrell Clarke may possibly turn out to be a bad appointment, or could equally be an inspired appointment, taking Rovers from the Conference to League 1 in successive seasons - none of us can possibly know at this stage and the constant moaning about him by some supporters is not yet justified.
Let's see how he gets on with his own team choices and players he has chosen and then maybe make a more realistic judgement.
|
|
Peter Parker
Global Moderator
Richard Walker
You have been sentenced to DELETION!
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,920
|
Post by Peter Parker on Jun 4, 2014 17:58:42 GMT
Not sure i would put Skins down as a club legend.
|
|
LJG
Peter Beadle
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 969
|
Post by LJG on Jun 4, 2014 18:17:19 GMT
I said before Ward was appointed I'd like to see him Manage Rovers. - Contacts at Chelsea and QPR. - Managerial pedigree - QPR reserves, assistant at Lewes (Conf South winners at the time), assistant at Farnborough (Southern Lge Prem winners and Conf South Play off runners up during his time). - Club legend. I wrote to him and Higgs at the time asking them to get in touch with each other. I got laughed at at the time. I wonder if those same users still think it's funny now Clarke is the answer with less experience and less success. How does Clarke have less experience when he's actually managed, and how does he have less success when he has managed a team to promotion from Conference South? Question is, had he not played for Rovers would you have recommended him? And on what basis? How about because he's managed Chelsea youth and managed QPR reserves. Same question goes for Clarke though doesn't it? If he hadn't been assistant for a p1ss useless season and then managed the p1ss useless last eight games would people still be backing him for the job? And if so on what basis? Still ... if you'd prefer the guy with contacts at Hartlepool and Salisbury to the guy with contacts at Chelsea, QPR and Hibs ... |
|
|
|
Post by gasheadnaboo on Jun 4, 2014 18:31:37 GMT
How does Clarke have less experience when he's actually managed, and how does he have less success when he has managed a team to promotion from Conference South? Question is, had he not played for Rovers would you have recommended him? And on what basis? How about because he's managed Chelsea youth and managed QPR reserves. Same question goes for Clarke though doesn't it? If he hadn't been assistant for a p1ss useless season and then managed the p1ss useless last eight games would people still be backing him for the job? And if so on what basis? Still ... if you'd prefer the guy with contacts at Hartlepool and Salisbury to the guy with contacts at Chelsea, QPR and Hibs ... I bet that was tough managing those youth and reserve teams, I bet he really struggled to attract players to them. |
|
Gashead
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 260
|
Post by Gashead on Jun 4, 2014 18:34:08 GMT
How does Clarke have less experience when he's actually managed, and how does he have less success when he has managed a team to promotion from Conference South? Question is, had he not played for Rovers would you have recommended him? And on what basis? How about because he's managed Chelsea youth and managed QPR reserves. Same question goes for Clarke though doesn't it? If he hadn't been assistant for a p1ss useless season and then managed the p1ss useless last eight games would people still be backing him for the job? And if so on what basis? Still ... if you'd prefer the guy with contacts at Hartlepool and Salisbury to the guy with contacts at Chelsea, QPR and Hibs ... If I'm totally honest, I don't blame Clarke for the train wreck which has occurred over the last four or five years. Asking him to turn it around in eight games was a hospital pass - nothing more, nothing less. Ward didn't recruit properly in the summer or in January or before the emergency window shut. I'll judge DC based on what he does this season. Very good words said about him at Salisbury, I think he needs to be given a proper chance. Managing at youth/reserve level is great, but not really the same as managing a first-team Conference club. |
|
LJG
Peter Beadle
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 969
|
Post by LJG on Jun 4, 2014 18:38:09 GMT
How about because he's managed Chelsea youth and managed QPR reserves. Same question goes for Clarke though doesn't it? If he hadn't been assistant for a p1ss useless season and then managed the p1ss useless last eight games would people still be backing him for the job? And if so on what basis? Still ... if you'd prefer the guy with contacts at Hartlepool and Salisbury to the guy with contacts at Chelsea, QPR and Hibs ... I bet that was tough managing those youth and reserve teams, I bet he really struggled to attract players to them. You're right ... I always say during the loan windows "We need someone at the club who can get young loanees in from teams just promoted from Conf South or recently relegated to League Two, just like Yeovil do". Who needs knowledge of Premiership set-ups when you can have the guy who crys? |
|
|
|
Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 4, 2014 19:49:06 GMT
What exactly was DC asked to turn around in 8 games? All that was asked was that he kept us where we were when he took over, nope didn't manage that did he. But he cries, says the right thing so why would you consider anyone else?
|
|
LJG
Peter Beadle
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 969
|
Post by LJG on Jun 4, 2014 20:26:56 GMT
What exactly was DC asked to turn around in 8 games? All that was asked was that he kept us where we were when he took over, nope didn't manage that did he. But he cries, says the right thing so why would you consider anyone else? Hey, don't forget they weren't his players. You can't expect a manager to get exactly the consistency of home form as had been shown all season in only four home matches if they're not his players. And you can't expect him to know the impact of dropping the top goal scorer or playing him in a defensive role if they're not his players. |
|
|
|
Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jun 4, 2014 20:47:53 GMT
What exactly was DC asked to turn around in 8 games? All that was asked was that he kept us where we were when he took over, nope didn't manage that did he. But he cries, says the right thing so why would you consider anyone else? Hey, don't forget they weren't his players. You can't expect a manager to get exactly the consistency of home form as had been shown all season in only four home matches if they're not his players. And you can't expect him to know the impact of dropping the top goal scorer or playing him in a defensive role if they're not his players. Fair point I'd forgotten that he'd been stood around doing f*ck all the rest of the season. |
|
LPGas
Stuart Taylor
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,240
|
Post by LPGas on Jun 5, 2014 0:09:30 GMT
What exactly was DC asked to turn around in 8 games? All that was asked was that he kept us where we were when he took over, nope didn't manage that did he. But he cries, says the right thing so why would you consider anyone else? Hey, don't forget they weren't his players. You can't expect a manager to get exactly the consistency of home form as had been shown all season in only four home matches if they're not his players. And you can't expect him to know the impact of dropping the top goal scorer or playing him in a defensive role if they're not his players. He was dropped in the s**te by Ward and the Board |
|
Teigngas
Steve White
Joined: June 2014
Posts: 264
|
Post by Teigngas on Jun 5, 2014 6:31:37 GMT
What I find incredible is that people are writing off our manager before he has even had a chance to do his job, and no, I don`t believe 8 games at the end of last season count. How about we give him a chance and judge him again midway through the season - is it not about time we supported our manager?
I can understand judging Ward who ballsed up last season, I can understand judging our board who have ballsed things up for years, but judging a new manager who has had no chance to do his job yet? Come on.
|
|
LJG
Peter Beadle
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 969
|
Post by LJG on Jun 5, 2014 6:51:48 GMT
Hey, don't forget they weren't his players. You can't expect a manager to get exactly the consistency of home form as had been shown all season in only four home matches if they're not his players. And you can't expect him to know the impact of dropping the top goal scorer or playing him in a defensive role if they're not his players. He was dropped in the s***e by Ward and the Board Exactly - it's Ward's fault he played our top goalscorer in a defensive role when he came back from being dropped and it's the board's fault he blooded an 18 year old youth player who was returning from a broken foot in a critical game. And Ward and the board's told Muhammed to drop back into a sweeper role when we were losing to Rochdale. |
|
|
|
Post by gasheadnaboo on Jun 5, 2014 17:53:11 GMT
He was dropped in the s***e by Ward and the Board Exactly - it's Ward's fault he played our top goalscorer in a defensive role when he came back from being dropped and it's the board's fault he blooded an 18 year old youth player who was returning from a broken foot in a critical game. And Ward and the board's told Muhammed to drop back into a sweeper role when we were losing to Rochdale. I feel sorry for you really, you're obviously obsessed with getting Clarke out of the club and as it looks very much like he is going to get a fair crack at it, so you're probably going to be bitterly disappointed until the board change managers again. Best to just get over it pal, or I guess you could always just start hoping for Clarke and Rovers to lose every game until he is sacked, I just hope the next man gets more than 8 games this time. £20 says Clarke will win us more than one away game next season, unlike the moron who preceded him could  |
|
Deleted
Joined: January 1970
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 18:21:46 GMT
And how long will you give the `legend`  Mr Skinner if Rovers dont get off to a flying start and allow `his` team to `gel`?. 10 games? Until christmas? or a 3year plan seeing as he is your choice? Longer than you have given Clarke no doubt with your sad damnation knowing the full facts of the rebellious demise of BRFC? Just to add,thank christ that not all Rovers fans have your `supportive` traits. |
|
|
|
Post by Two Headed Sex Beast on Jun 5, 2014 22:46:08 GMT
Club legend? Justin Skinner?
The same Justin Skinner that played for The Gas?
What a load of bollocks.
|
|
Mr Skinner if Rovers dont get off to a flying start and allow `his` team to `gel`?. 10 games? Until christmas? or a 3year plan seeing as he is your choice?