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Post by bs5 on Aug 31, 2014 19:39:21 GMT
Higgsy has stated we have important news on the Horizon regarding the stadium but at the moment he states that due to confidentiality etc etc he can't comment any further.
My theory( hopeful) is that he is already in talks with another supermarket chain regarding taking over the full plans thus the silence. Think about it for a moment, it seems that all this turmoil with Sainsburys happened way back in February yet he has only recently mentioned about some news in September , he has also stated as recently as last week that the UWE will still proceed much to the bewilderment of us fans especially with the even more recent news regarding the high court writ, I mean it's extremely unlikely that Sainsburys will want to continue in business with us after this writ had been issued so is it possible that our chairmen is in advanced with maybe Morrisons or Aldi?
Something doesn't add up regarding all this but I'm hoping that maybe news along these lines will come out soon.
It's not unfeasible for another chain to take up the reigns so soon after , you only have to look at 1982s stadium venture to realise that, they were selling their plot to Tescos initially then at the 11th hour switched to Sainsburys. It's different circumstances I know because no planning had gone in at that stage but surely this wouldn't make a difference. B&Q took over the Filton branch not long before it opened but this was designed and built to house Homebase.
I hope my theory bears fruition.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 31, 2014 20:08:05 GMT
It would be great if your theory was correct but would any other supermarket pay as much bearing in mind Sainsburys were the highest bidder before and market conditions have deteriorated since then.
But taking what you say a stage further is it possible this is why Nick is talking about new investment ?
And why would he be talking about needing IT skills if we are staying at the Mem ?
When you think about it if we were staying at the Mem who would want to put a couple of hundred thousand in to be part of a Conference club playing at a stadium which by the Chairman's own admission is not fit for purpose. The Mem will take a lot more than that to bring it up to date and then there is investment in the football structure as well as a training ground which was a priority highlighted by Nick not so long ago.
So is it possible that the Mem will be sold for less to someone other than Sainsburys but a major new investor will take over the club and be able to fully finance the gap in the UWE Stadium funding and put cash into the football club plus pay for a new training ground ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 20:17:22 GMT
If my aunt had rollocks she'd be me uncle!
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Post by gas2 on Aug 31, 2014 20:23:05 GMT
don't know if people realise this but when lidl or aldi open a new store the other always want one not to far from the other ?
did I hear sasinsburys were going to close their store on glos road when the store at the mem was goin g to open ?
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Post by alloutofgas on Aug 31, 2014 20:23:18 GMT
Hmmm, my thoughts are that there is planning permission for a brand new stadium. The first time this has been achieved. With all the add ons that will follow the stadium there are millions of pounds riding on the back of this. Surely other investors are being lined up??
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 31, 2014 20:37:03 GMT
When did NH say there was important news on the horizon? The last we were told was in the 20man interview when he said it would be several more months before any further announcements would be made.
If Sainsbury's were actually on the verge of handing over the plans to another supermarket why did we issue a writ forcing them to issue the delivery times Appeal?
I'm guessing the talk about an It expert follows on from NH feeling the contracts are watertight, either he's deluded or just trying to paint a positive spin. Also whilst the club are apparently looking for investment there's been no suggestion recently anybody is actually interested.
The store design may suit Morrisons but I'm guessing it's too large for Aldi, but would another supermarket want to use Sainsbury's design anyway?
It would be great to be proved wrong but I sense it's just wishful thinking by the OP.
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Post by basel on Aug 31, 2014 20:43:17 GMT
I remember we were still kind of getting over the news that the Mem regeneration was dead in the water when the UWE project was sprung on us.
I'm sick of the whole bloody thing but it wouldn't totally surprise me if BS5s theory was correct.
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Post by crater on Aug 31, 2014 20:51:06 GMT
Would the entire Mem site be worth considerably less than Sainsburys are/were paying if it was sold to a property company for a new housing development?
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Post by Bath Gas on Aug 31, 2014 21:05:56 GMT
Would the entire Mem site be worth considerably less than Sainsburys are/were paying if it was sold to a property company for a new housing development? Yes, I believe that would be the case.  |
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Post by bs5 on Aug 31, 2014 21:14:35 GMT
When did NH say there was important news on the horizon? The last we were told was in the 20man interview when he said it would be several more months before any further announcements would be made. If Sainsbury's were actually on the verge of handing over the plans to another supermarket why did we issue a writ forcing them to issue the delivery times Appeal? I'm guessing the talk about an It expert follows on from NH feeling the contracts are watertight, either he's deluded or just trying to paint a positive spin. Also whilst the club are apparently looking for investment there's been no suggestion recently anybody is actually interested. The store design may suit Morrisons but I'm guessing it's too large for Aldi, but would another supermarket want to use Sainsbury's design anyway? It would be great to be proved wrong but I sense it's just wishful thinking by the OP. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk I have spoken to an acquaintance of mine the Thursday before last who is involved with the club on a daily basis and when I asked him regarding news on the stadium front he told me that Higgs mentioned important news in September but wouldn't tell him anymore than that due to the confidentiality of it. This sort of backed up the murmurings from Higgs' few interviews where he mentions further announcements and confidentiality etc |
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 31, 2014 21:20:19 GMT
It's possible but who are the likely candidates:
Tesco and Morrisons are being hit more than Sainsbury by the rise of the German discounters.
Aldi and Lidl are on the up but not really a store footprint for them.
I presume there are local Asdas. Co-Op are a mess. Waitrose?
If he pulled off hats off to him, but I have little confidence in this board.
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Post by bs5 on Aug 31, 2014 21:32:38 GMT
It's possible but who are the likely candidates: Tesco and Morrisons are being hit more than Sainsbury by the rise of the German discounters. Aldi and Lidl are on the up but not really a store footprint for them. I presume there are local Asdas. Co-Op are a mess. Waitrose? If he pulled off hats off to him, but I have little confidence in this board. Couldn't see it being Tesco because of the close proximity to Eastville and Golden hill, Morrisons closest store is over 2 miles away and also Asda so possible contenders, could the Germans use this as a flagship store? Maybe moving up in the market? |
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Post by robroover on Aug 31, 2014 21:33:44 GMT
Hmmm, my thoughts are that there is planning permission for a brand new stadium. The first time this has been achieved. With all the add ons that will follow the stadium there are millions of pounds riding on the back of this. Surely other investors are being lined up?? C |
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Post by robroover on Aug 31, 2014 21:48:14 GMT
don't know if people realise this but when lidl or aldi open a new store the other always want one not to far from the other ? did I hear sasinsburys were going to close their store on glos road when the store at the mem was goin g to open ? In longwell green, an Aldi has justed opened. In a few months a Morrisons Local will open in an old petrol station 2 minutes walk away. There is also a Tesco local already open there all within 5 mins or less walking. The competition is getting fierce as far as "local" size stores go. My feeling would be that Sainsburys would like a smaller store, but are not getting "a good deal" in regard to "the deal" they agreed with BRFC. Hence the change of delivery hours, they would like to impose as a get out clause! Water tight? We will wait and see! |
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Aug 31, 2014 21:55:21 GMT
Did i see somewhere posted on this forum that there was a board meeting tomorrow? Maybe this week we might have some news regarding off the pitch issues.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 22:02:02 GMT
Maybe he needs someone with IT skills to google the name of other supermarkets?
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Post by bstokegas on Sept 1, 2014 8:26:54 GMT
Higgsy has stated we have important news on the Horizon regarding the stadium but at the moment he states that due to confidentiality etc etc he can't comment any further. My theory( hopeful) is that he is already in talks with another supermarket chain regarding taking over the full plans thus the silence. Think about it for a moment, it seems that all this turmoil with Sainsburys happened way back in February yet he has only recently mentioned about some news in September , he has also stated as recently as last week that the UWE will still proceed much to the bewilderment of us fans especially with the even more recent news regarding the high court writ, I mean it's extremely unlikely that Sainsburys will want to continue in business with us after this writ had been issued so is it possible that our chairmen is in advanced with maybe Morrisons or Aldi? Something doesn't add up regarding all this but I'm hoping that maybe news along these lines will come out soon. It's not unfeasible for another chain to take up the reigns so soon after , you only have to look at 1982s stadium venture to realise that, they were selling their plot to Tescos initially then at the 11th hour switched to Sainsburys. It's different circumstances I know because no planning had gone in at that stage but surely this wouldn't make a difference. B&Q took over the Filton branch not long before it opened but this was designed and built to house Homebase. I hope my theory bears fruition. I too have thought this and wondered if NH is relying on receiving significant compensation from sainsbury's, allowing the mem to be bought for a lower price? |
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 1, 2014 9:33:41 GMT
What puzzles me is that if Sainsbury's are worried about making money from a supermarket development then why dont they buy the land and build something else on it!! Offices, a "retail park", hotel, business park, a velodrome  , a rubbish re-cycling centre , a concert hall (for opera and ballet of course) a theme park. Any other suggestions of an alternate development, let you imagination run riot |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 13:59:28 GMT
I would imagine if Sainsbury,s pulled out of the deal then compensation would have to be paid,something like 30% of the original deal would allow another supermarket chain to purchase at a lower price say 20 million,we still get the stadium and sainsbury are out of pocket everyones a winner
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Post by Thatslife on Sept 1, 2014 14:14:36 GMT
I would imagine if Sainsbury,s pulled out of the deal then compensation would have to be paid,something like 30% of the original deal would allow another supermarket chain to purchase at a lower price say 20 million,we still get the stadium and sainsbury are out of pocket everyones a winner Except Sainsburys of course |
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, a rubbish re-cycling centre