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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 11:03:33 GMT
That's an interesting question. Let's explore it. Number of members. Not many, and it's not increasing. Nett worth. As a gesture of goodwill and to demonstrate that you see no issue with such a disclosure, how about you get the ball rolling by listing your assets, liabilities and cash in hand? My business is a limited company so therefore is all listed to the public. If you feel the urge… As we are talking about an organisation associated with the football club to which draws its funds from supporters with a constitution “to support the football club” I think it’s entirely appropriate that members and financials are disclosed. Of course the status of Limited Companies are a matter of record, which is easily accessible, but that's not what you appeared to asked. It read as if you had an interest in members' personal finances. Was you question just poorly formed, were you asking about the financial status of the Presidents' Club?
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Post by Bath Gas on Dec 1, 2021 11:19:43 GMT
My business is a limited company so therefore is all listed to the public. If you feel the urge… As we are talking about an organisation associated with the football club to which draws its funds from supporters with a constitution “to support the football club” I think it’s entirely appropriate that members and financials are disclosed. Of course the status of Limited Companies are a matter of record, which is easily accessible, but that's not what you appeared to asked. It read as if you had an interest in members' personal finances. Was you question just poorly formed, were you asking about the financial status of the Presidents' Club? I read it as referring to the Presidents Club, not individual members.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 11:27:53 GMT
Of course the status of Limited Companies are a matter of record, which is easily accessible, but that's not what you appeared to asked. It read as if you had an interest in members' personal finances. Was you question just poorly formed, were you asking about the financial status of the Presidents' Club? I read it as referring to the Presidents Club, not individual members. Fair enough, it did seem somewhat intrusive and borderline invidious if it was a request for details of personal financial information. But there's zero chance of finding out what money the PC has when John Malyckyj has been asking for probably 2 years now how many members they have, and he still hasn't received an answer that gives a simple number.
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 1, 2021 11:38:37 GMT
Are they a splinter group from the Illuminati?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 1, 2021 13:16:03 GMT
Did we ever establish how many presidents club members there are and how much money they actually have? That's an interesting question. Let's explore it. Number of members. Not many, and it's not increasing. Nett worth. As a gesture of goodwill and to demonstrate that you see no issue with such a disclosure, how about you get the ball rolling by listing your assets, liabilities and cash in hand? Well said fella.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 13:53:02 GMT
My business is a limited company so therefore is all listed to the public. If you feel the urge… As we are talking about an organisation associated with the football club to which draws its funds from supporters with a constitution “to support the football club” I think it’s entirely appropriate that members and financials are disclosed. Of course the status of Limited Companies are a matter of record, which is easily accessible, but that's not what you appeared to asked. It read as if you had an interest in members' personal finances. Was you question just poorly formed, were you asking about the financial status of the Presidents' Club? I’d say you misread it rather than it be poorly formed. Bathgate knew exactly what I was asking. Read it again. I have no interest in personal net worth of any one individual.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 14:09:13 GMT
Of course the status of Limited Companies are a matter of record, which is easily accessible, but that's not what you appeared to asked. It read as if you had an interest in members' personal finances. Was you question just poorly formed, were you asking about the financial status of the Presidents' Club? I’d say you misread it rather than it be poorly formed. Read it again. I have no interest in personal net worth of any one individual. I'll stick with, you didn't make the point at all well. Just because you know what's going on between your ears doesn't mean there's automatically some means by which others can decipher ill formed missives. Here you go, Reading it again, you are asking how much money the members have. Don't blame me for not being able to guess that you meant something other than what you have written. Anyway, we got there in the end, so maybe someone can let us know whether the PC as an organisation has any funds at its disposal?
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 14:16:19 GMT
I’d say you misread it rather than it be poorly formed. Read it again. I have no interest in personal net worth of any one individual. I'll stick with, you didn't make the point at all well. Just because you know what's going on between your ears doesn't mean there's automatically some means by which others can decipher ill formed missives. Here you go, Reading it again, you are asking how much money the members have. Don't blame me for not being able to guess that you meant something other than what you have written. Anyway, we got there in the end, so maybe someone can let us know whether the PC as an organisation has any funds at its disposal? When we are talking on the topic of the PC which has been set by the OP and I specifically ask a question with reference to the size of the PC membership and how much money it has. It really shouldn’t be that hard to deduce especially for someone as intelligent as your good self. Especially when I make no mention of any individuals by name. But I shall remember to spell it out especially for you and KP next time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 17:55:20 GMT
I'll stick with, you didn't make the point at all well. Just because you know what's going on between your ears doesn't mean there's automatically some means by which others can decipher ill formed missives. Here you go, Reading it again, you are asking how much money the members have. Don't blame me for not being able to guess that you meant something other than what you have written. Anyway, we got there in the end, so maybe someone can let us know whether the PC as an organisation has any funds at its disposal? When we are talking on the topic of the PC which has been set by the OP and I specifically ask a question with reference to the size of the PC membership and how much money it has. It really shouldn’t be that hard to deduce especially for someone as intelligent as your good self. Especially when I make no mention of any individuals by name. But I shall remember to spell it out especially for you and KP next time. Just write what you actually mean, that's all that's required, thanks. Anyway, does anybody know how many members there are please, and for some reason that isn't quite clear at this stage, this guy would like to also know what funds the PC has at its disposal, does anybody have that information?
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Post by swissgas on Dec 1, 2021 18:14:01 GMT
When we are talking on the topic of the PC which has been set by the OP and I specifically ask a question with reference to the size of the PC membership and how much money it has. It really shouldn’t be that hard to deduce especially for someone as intelligent as your good self. Especially when I make no mention of any individuals by name. But I shall remember to spell it out especially for you and KP next time. Just write what you actually mean, that's all that's required, thanks. Anyway, does anybody know how many members there are please, and for some reason that isn't quite clear at this stage, this guy would like to also know what funds the PC has at its disposal, does anybody have that information? Can't really help here because under the Freedom of Inflammation Act I could only ascertain that the PC have an active account with Stuckey's bank which is managed by Walter Bagehot but not how much is in it. And as for membership, well it's impossible to count them because they keep moving around. But something I'd like to find out is this. If ITB is only vaguely acquainted with Wael how does he know that Wimbledon were asking £500K for Joe Pigott and that the only people who inquired about investing in Rovers were " chancers looking for a commission" ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 19:18:08 GMT
Oh Swiss, you are naughty, but I like you Haven't heard from Stuckers for a while. Hope his plane successfully circumnavigated the Eyjafjallajökull eruption!
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 19:40:13 GMT
Just write what you actually mean, that's all that's required, thanks. Anyway, does anybody know how many members there are please, and for some reason that isn't quite clear at this stage, this guy would like to also know what funds the PC has at its disposal, does anybody have that information? Can't really help here because under the Freedom of Inflammation Act I could only ascertain that the PC have an active account with Stuckey's bank which is managed by Walter Bagehot but not how much is in it. And as for membership, well it's impossible to count them because they keep moving around. But something I'd like to find out is this. If ITB is only vaguely acquainted with Wael how does he know that Wimbledon were asking £500K for Joe Pigott and that the only people who inquired about investing in Rovers were " chancers looking for a commission" ? Possibly because I know more than one person in the football world than Wael Al’Qadi and our board of directors, it’s a very small and connected world! You should know that Neil as an ex director… The person who told me about Joe Piggott was also interested in signing him at his club and made enquiries himself. As regards the chancers that I mentioned earlier. Perhaps you should ask KP, not that he will tell you anything because he might get in trouble with what he knows…but confidentiality wasn’t their speciality.
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Post by gasandproud on Dec 1, 2021 20:36:06 GMT
Can't really help here because under the Freedom of Inflammation Act I could only ascertain that the PC have an active account with Stuckey's bank which is managed by Walter Bagehot but not how much is in it. And as for membership, well it's impossible to count them because they keep moving around. But something I'd like to find out is this. If ITB is only vaguely acquainted with Wael how does he know that Wimbledon were asking £500K for Joe Pigott and that the only people who inquired about investing in Rovers were " chancers looking for a commission" ? Possibly because I know more than one person in the football world than Wael Al’Qadi and our board of directors, it’s a very small and connected world! You should know that Neil as an ex director… The person who told me about Joe Piggott was also interested in signing him at his club and made enquiries himself. As regards the chancers that I mentioned earlier. Perhaps you should ask KP, not that he will tell you anything because he might get in trouble with what he knows…but confidentiality wasn’t their speciality. Just a point of clarity,….Are the chancers you mention the two rovers fans who made an approach regarding a stadium opportunity?
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Post by swissgas on Dec 1, 2021 20:47:22 GMT
Can't really help here because under the Freedom of Inflammation Act I could only ascertain that the PC have an active account with Stuckey's bank which is managed by Walter Bagehot but not how much is in it. And as for membership, well it's impossible to count them because they keep moving around. But something I'd like to find out is this. If ITB is only vaguely acquainted with Wael how does he know that Wimbledon were asking £500K for Joe Pigott and that the only people who inquired about investing in Rovers were " chancers looking for a commission" ? Possibly because I know more than one person in the football world than Wael Al’Qadi and our board of directors, it’s a very small and connected world! You should know that Neil as an ex director… The person who told me about Joe Piggott was also interested in signing him at his club and made enquiries himself. As regards the chancers that I mentioned earlier. Perhaps you should ask KP, not that he will tell you anything because he might get in trouble with what he knows…but confidentiality wasn’t their speciality. If you are friendly with Wael and in regular communication with him then I can't see any reason to hide it. A problem would only arise if you used that privileged connection to mislead others or to take a superior ITK attitude which is something the PC have rightly been accused of doing in the past. What I think would be useful is if those with greater knowledge and better contacts could help guide us when it comes to the two huge issues which Rovers are currently facing namely the managerial situation and the exciting new revelations about a potential stadium at the Fruit Market.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
Possibly because I know more than one person in the football world than Wael Al’Qadi and our board of directors, it’s a very small and connected world! You should know that Neil as an ex director… The person who told me about Joe Piggott was also interested in signing him at his club and made enquiries himself. As regards the chancers that I mentioned earlier. Perhaps you should ask KP, not that he will tell you anything because he might get in trouble with what he knows…but confidentiality wasn’t their speciality. If you are friendly with Wael and in regular communication with him then I can't see any reason to hide it. A problem would only arise if you used that privileged connection to mislead others or to take a superior ITK attitude which is something the PC have rightly been accused of doing in the past. What I think would be useful is if those with greater knowledge and better contacts could help guide us when it comes to the two huge issues which Rovers are currently facing namely the managerial situation and the exciting new revelations about a potential stadium at the Fruit Market. I’ve never hidden the fact that I see Wael and talk to him at games and we message occasionally via WhatsApp but I rarely ask him anything about the inner goings on at the club. It’s not my business. If he asks for an opinion I’ll give it, but he very rarely does. Same goes for Tom. But as I stated earlier there’s many more people I know in football that I’ve known longer than the current board of directors that I’ve known mainly through players and managers that have used me for supplying and servicing cars and some of them know I support Rovers and call me with information. For example, when DC was still having a mare and losing games in the conference at the start of the season, he was 1 game away from the chop and i was asked to connect Gary Johnson as I had a connection. He was actually offered a job but turned it down. Another was when I was told that Ben Garner had gotten the gas job by someone at I know at Chelsea 24 hours before the club announced it. So I do help and would be happy to help any time anyone at the club would ask and I’ve also offered other help to the club which hasn’t been taken up. That’s also fine, the club is run differently these days. One thing I have never done is misled people with information, that’s the job of Knowall and gastower and their clique. I’ve called out the BS I know from such people when they aren’t playing with a straight bat. I’ve stuck my head above the parapet on more than one occasions on both forums when people have attempted to mislead others and I have no business in doing it myself. Anyway I don’t see what this has to do with OP which was about the PC and asking a fairly straightforward question about the amount of members they have and the finances within the PC (hopefully That’s clear TWD).
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 21:49:26 GMT
Possibly because I know more than one person in the football world than Wael Al’Qadi and our board of directors, it’s a very small and connected world! You should know that Neil as an ex director… The person who told me about Joe Piggott was also interested in signing him at his club and made enquiries himself. As regards the chancers that I mentioned earlier. Perhaps you should ask KP, not that he will tell you anything because he might get in trouble with what he knows…but confidentiality wasn’t their speciality. Just a point of clarity,….Are the chancers you mention the two rovers fans who made an approach regarding a stadium opportunity? No.
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Post by gasandproud on Dec 1, 2021 21:57:23 GMT
Just a point of clarity,….Are the chancers you mention the two rovers fans who made an approach regarding a stadium opportunity? No. Thanks for confirming….. much appreciated.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Dec 1, 2021 22:15:26 GMT
Thanks for confirming….. much appreciated. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Post by Angas on Dec 1, 2021 23:27:06 GMT
I'll stick with, you didn't make the point at all well. Just because you know what's going on between your ears doesn't mean there's automatically some means by which others can decipher ill formed missives. Here you go, Reading it again, you are asking how much money the members have. Don't blame me for not being able to guess that you meant something other than what you have written. Anyway, we got there in the end, so maybe someone can let us know whether the PC as an organisation has any funds at its disposal? When we are talking on the topic of the PC which has been set by the OP and I specifically ask a question with reference to the size of the PC membership and how much money it has. It really shouldn’t be that hard to deduce especially for someone as intelligent as your good self. Especially when I make no mention of any individuals by name. But I shall remember to spell it out especially for you and KP next time. And for me please, as I also read it the same way TWD did. "they have" reads quite differently to "it has".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 0:11:40 GMT
When we are talking on the topic of the PC which has been set by the OP and I specifically ask a question with reference to the size of the PC membership and how much money it has. It really shouldn’t be that hard to deduce especially for someone as intelligent as your good self. Especially when I make no mention of any individuals by name. But I shall remember to spell it out especially for you and KP next time. And for me please, as I also read it the same way TWD did. "they have" reads quite differently to "it has". That's because it's what he said Anne. No idea why some people have such difficulty with accepting simple corrections, maybe pride, maybe ego, who knows?
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